Is "The Fourth Kind" real or fake? Secrets revealed

I see 11:11 at least twice a day! Uncanny!!!!

Is the footage of Tommy shooting his family real?

truth is many people can’t and won’t think about the possibilities of alien contact being true. i mean if everything was staged in that film then at the end they would have said so like at the ending of paranormal activity. Paramount abruptly said that all characters in the film are fictitious. everyone keeps saying its not real and blah blah blah when they clearly put the evidence in your face. this is the reason why the director said at the end of the film for you to believe in what you’ve seen is entirely up to you cause people go straight into denial so fucking easily

Osunsamni said to make up our minds about whether or not the case involved alien abduction, not whether or not the case itself actually existed. That’s the discrepancy that seems to be going over everyone’s heads, I’m afraid.

And Xavier, I think plenty of people would buy it, unfortunately.

watch the exorcist see the girl aparently levitae then thrash around on the bed it the same techneique was used on the film and blury scrambled video used to hide it duh

Phil – I very much liked your review of the movie and am of the same frame of mind that it is insulting to the audience to think we would believe the footage is true. Just because it looks real doesn’t mean it is, I mean all the creatures in lord of the rings looked like they could be real yet obviously they aren’t. I mean come on let’s all just agree that the problem was alien abductions because a movie starring Milla Jovovic said so, its ridiculous.

If there is any validity to this story at all (which I doubt) no one has created a more sucessful coverup for alien abduction than the combined terrible efforts of the director, editor, and director of photography. If I were aliens abducting fools in Alaska I would be so excited right now because the total F grade quality of this film. While the tales of abduction could have been nightmarish bedtime stories passes around for years, they have instead been splattered carelessly across movie screens in a nationwide release. The worst film I have seen all year. Aliens, your secret is safe with Hollywood. I’ll bet the government wishes they just pumped out a steaming celluloid of Fourth Kind proportion back in the 50’s and maybe there wouldn’t be conspiracy theorists clinging to a god forsaken stretch of highway in Roswell, New Mexico. You know how I can tell the “documentary” footage is fake. The director’s name is bigger than ‘Abigail Tyler’ on the pretentious three panel spread behind their interview. Congratulations director, whose name I’m not even going to try and spell, you’ve proven yourself as a terrible documentarian, screenwriter, and director in one fell swoop. Why don’t you head back to Chapman University and learn how to put your camera on a tripod so I can look at your ridiculously unmotivated closeups without dramamine. I wish it didn’t cost me ten dollars to see you fail at filmmaking.

I have searched the internet numerous times to see the truth of the story and everytime i come up with the FBI saying the missing people were caused by “alcohol and cold weather”. What i dont get is why would that have just effected those people in that time period, i’m sure they have been drinking booz and living in cold weather way before that stuff happened. Of course the FBI is going to cover up alien abduction! People act like the FBI have not covered up stories before. Also the Christopher Loyd comment, seriously? Of course this movie isn’t real, its based off of real events you dumb ass.

All I can say to either of the parties (real vs fake) is get some empirical evidence to support your claims instead of your opinions.

“They actually used some of the SAME props to film scenes in the “actual footage” and scenes of movie footage.” – Anya

Oh wow, cause making a home seem very much like another one is just outrageous! If you honestly believe in what you said in that quotation.. woah.

“The ‘real’ Abigail Tyler is an actress. I’ve definitely seen her in movies before. AND she wasn’t even convincing in trying to be the real doctor.” – Anya

Oh really? You’re so sure that you’ve seen this woman before yet you can’t come up with any names of characters, movies, anything? Guys… seriously.

“The director’s name is bigger than ‘Abigail Tyler’ on the pretentious three panel spread behind their interview.” – echofoxtrot

Seems like solid evidence to form a concrete conclusion on about this film. Good job sir.

Anyways I could probably quote a good 90% of these comments and point out how ridiculous the people are for saying it. All I want is before people decide to speak in a public setting and actually want to be taken seriously.. get some evidence. I don’t care if it’s “proof” I just want concrete, empirical evidence.

I don’t believe if the footage in the movie is real or fake, there is a chance of either, however, I did find it somewhat disturbing and did find that I got my moneys worth.

I believe…I belllLLIIIEEEEEEEEVEEEE…

This movie isn’t based on real events, dumb ass! It is based on psychological and mythological recollections which are sketchy, at best. Get a life…

ok, lets not argue about things we cannot substantiate. The truth is that alien sightings and abduction reports having been having since the earliest recorded times. People have been recording them by all means necessary. Governments and other people have at the same time been putting out false reports and weather balloons and shit just so they can lop any real alien events in with the fake ones.

Is the footage real? Is the movie based on real events? Who knows. But consider this, of the hundreds of billions of star systems with hundreds of billions of stars there must be at least hundreds of thousands with the potential for life, of which thousands probably contain life, possibly intelligent life. It is highly plausible that other intelligent beings like ourselves will have the notion to venture out and study or make contact with other life forms.

So it definitely could happen and probably has already. The numbers are not important but hey man there no way to deny the possibilities.

Because they can hide sitting in their chair, behind a computer. And because they aren’t saying it to someone’s face.

A lot of you people are in denile for you not to even take in someone else’s opinion regardless if it is true or false is not very smart. The movie was meant to get you thinking and for some who is already in the field of disclosing Phenomena this movie actually backs up what has been said in the past. For those that think living in a world which everything that is being done that you cannot see for yourself is something good and not harmful needs to wake up and get Informed. Some of you that actually type without hard information and pure opinion really need to keep your fingers off the Keyboard until you actually have information backing up what you say only thing it cause is an argument and everyone gets off topic. Furthermore if you guys remember the scene where the the daughter got abducted and they circled at the top right of your screen THIS WAS ACTUAL FOOTAGE RELEASED FROM THE F.B.I. back in 2000. My “proof” is the history channel way back then when they did a show on UFO phenomena.

Aww I’m sorry Anon. Guess you had nothing to say b/c you know I’m right. And you had to re-read my opening sentence? I guess you really are dumb!! So cute. 🙂

I don’t deny the existence of alien life, but this movie was freaking lame. Even if it is actually fake and only meant to make us think (or true), the execution was poor. It felt like I was paying money to watch a 90 to 120 minute Discovery channel show where they have no good footage due the camera magically ****ing up.

I think the clearest evidence of extraterrestrial life is that they HAVEN’T tried to contact us en masse. Most likely because they read a message board post series just like this one. If I were from another planet and witnessed our general human interaction (of which this is an example) I would probably come back in a couple thousand years hoping for some evolution to have occurred (providing the place hasn’t been nuked or drowned in the meantime). Yay humans.

For one, they say it is real but i did not see it in writing in te film. Did anyone els? Two, if it was real, why did it just show up now. It would be in every news real, History Chanel Special and m night shyamalan movie out. Finaly lets tink national security and “true” conspiracy theories. If evidense like this existed and the FBI were involved it wold be conviscated. In the 1900s the evidense on UFOs was more secret than the A-Bomb. How would hollywood not only obtain it and produce it with no legal or “hands on” resistance, but also keep it out. This is just like the radio broadcast of war of the worlds back in the 1938. You cannot deny how scary it was and how real it looked and sounded. In the end you can only think if it is real… thank god i don’t and won’t emember if it happened to me.

hahaha maybe i AM a child!!!!! and clearly you could not understand the lamp reference that i made EITHER because, for the THIRD TIME, they didn’t use the same props to re-create the SAME ROOM, the used it in a DIFFERENT LOCATION = big mistake!! And it was not a ‘basic lamp’, it was quite unique, actually. And no offense Danielle, but why don’t you watch the movie first before you try to sound like you know what you are talking about?
PS. When you watch it, the “actual footage” scenes are not real and they were filmed for the movie. Just a heads up 😉

Oh, and…Anon read my ‘entire passage’, don’t you worry. He just doesn’t have anything to say. MWAHHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!

ALIENS RULE!

This movies credibility is real, you can google all the documents, and so forth, the footage was not manipulated. Also with the actors, and actresses coming out and speaking is a hell of a lot better then in paranormal activity when you had to stay AFTER THE CREDITS to find out it was fake. By stating that it’s real and warning you about what you are going to see, nowhere in the credits, from anything does it say it’s fiction, BY LAW they have to put a disclaimer in there if it’s based on real events. But instead of just saying “based on true events” before the movie they actually let the actors/actresses tell you first hand how it was determined and made. If it was false they have to let you know either in the beginning or end. And they did not.

In my opinion i thank the directors for that, because it lets me feel better. Some people said the movie is just like the blare witch project, cloverfield, and paranormal activity. First off they didn’t have someone holding the camera to make it seem real. They showed you the REAL footage, and where they acted it out, and they used professional cameras when on the actors.

well smell my finger i have not watched the film and wont as i have forgotten the combination to the bunker door since watching terminator.

The movie was a good story line and yes I will say was worth my time to go see. I thought the story line was pretty good and thought it would be better if the footage was actually real so I went online to read some reviews. There were some pretty intelligent responses when I started to read then after awhile turned into a high school argument between postings and eventually had nothing to do with the movie anymore.
Anyways, yes there have been many MANY sightings all over the world so the possibility is definitely there and I always keep my mind open. I also think that if someone comes up with a story of seeing some sort of non-human thing or an encounter of some kind that others will come up with stories as well to try to get publicity. But again I am not against anyone that says they have truly had these encounters.
The movie was just a movie that obviously got a lot of attention, reviews, and made a lot of money which is the goal of every movie that is made. If it is actually based off real events and the tapes were real then it makes the movie that much better but if not the story line was good.

http://io9.com/5399895/fourth-kind-insider-yes-it-was-totally-fake

Thank you all for the entertaining thread. My favorite was “dubmass.”

Whether the validity of this movie is completely bunk or not, all the statements regarding ancient Sumerian text/hieroglyphics are real. Controversial “pictures” of humans in space suits and rockets can be viewed for yourself even in some Egyptian and Aztec hieroglyphics. The problem is that it all relies on complete interpretation OF the ancient text and hieroglyphics.

Well crap!! I just watched it. I can honestly say that I thought the movie was very convincing, that’s why I am here, trying to find out if it is based on real events or not. While reading this comments is fun we all have to admit that none of us have any hard evidence about the film being either fake or real, all I’ve been able to find so far is a bunch of opinions from people that can speak their minds but wont listen to the others’.

Has anybody found actual comments from either the producers or the director stating the truth? Remember Fargo? Even though during the film there’s a statement saying the movie is based on real events the directors admitted it was not real.

Anya,
Whenever there is a person playing themselves in a movie, in the credits, it will say “Abigal Tyler as herself”…. they didn’t have her name at all in the credits except for “Abigail Tyler played by Milla Jovovich”

It does in fact credit Dr. Abigal Emily Tyler in the credits of the movie. 🙂 just saying. Along with the actors and actresses who portrayed the supposidly real people.

mel, for one thing, you tell us to get a life yet your the one reading everyone elses comments, and trying to make yourself sound intelligent with your oh so big words like ‘any way’ and ‘ridiculous’. no, I don’t have a ‘crush’ on anon, I don’t even know who he is. his accusations just sound a little more on-the-spot if you know what I mean. oh wait. you don’t. now go and copy and paste what Danielle said and act like a big bad adult saying everyone should get a life. when you’re the one going on here, responding to something that doesn’t even involve you, and yet you think just because you say things like that makes you feel powerful, am I correct? plus, I don’t give a freakin a about how anon types. for all I know he could have typed it on word. stop believing in Christ and get a life of your own.

This was just posted hours ago. http://newsminer.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Alaska+newspapers-+movie+studio+reach+settlement+over+-Fourth+Kind-%20&id=4440819-Alaska+newspapers-+movie+studio+reach+settlement+over+-Fourth+Kind-&instance=home_news_window_left_top_1

If it were real, they wouldn’t have to fabricate articles to corroborate their film

Theres is a lot of info in this movie detailing certain facts that the writer wanted you to know… It tore down the first chapter of the bible and explained the summarians and what the had foreseen. You cannot say this movie is entirely false and those that do need to actually get their head out of their ass. It’s always been said that human’s with all the facts in front of their face will always doubt the most simplest of things because to them everything is based on pure intellect. There also if you notice a lot of actual information that identified the realism of this movie are now non-existent so to “C-Wade” i do not believe they were not in on keeping a lot of things in the open when you look at the gap information.

I completely believe it. Aliens have been around forever. I think when people don’t believe in them, they’re simply using that as a comfort blanket. Humans know virtually nothing about the paranormal. Those who are too scared to face the fact that Earth and the physical world are not the only things around, are simply the ones who laugh at the fact of Aliens. The director at the beginning of this movie has the actress state the footage is real and to believe what you want in the end. People automatically figure “its fake” but why do you figure it is? Aliens have evolved to the point that we cannot comprehend. There is abduction stories all over the place, and thousands upon thousands of UFO sightings. And every time you doubters just shrug it off? Clearly there is more out there. This is not open to debate anymore, it’s fact. There is a famous abduction story of a woman and she tells the Aliens she will tell everyone about them and they simply say back “Nobody will believe you”. And its true. Maybe we should start admitting we dont know anything and opening our minds to bigger possibilities. If this scares you, that means you’re weak. Continue living your pathetic little life of work, school and materialism and let the people with open minds step foreward and speak. We are most definitely NOT alone in this massive universe(s). We never have been, and we never will be. Face it.

Well I watched it under the impression the real footage was real footage…..if it was fake I want my money back. Surely if it wasn’t real footage they can’t say it is?

I liked the film….but now I am thinking have I been conned or was it real? Isn’t there a law that says something about not lying? Or did thet go out with Golman Sachs bonuses?

surely you can’t say this is “real footage” then make us watch staged stuff? I agree with this:
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By stating that it’s real and warning you about what you are going to see, nowhere in the credits, from anything does it say it’s fiction, BY LAW they have to put a disclaimer in there if it’s based on real events. But instead of just saying “based on true events” before the movie they actually let the actors/actresses tell you first hand how it was determined and made. If it was false they have to let you know either in the beginning or end. And they did not.

I give this movie an A+ for the story line and it has inspired me to investigate. I have contacted the Nome Nugget the local news paper and read many of their old cases and i have found nothing out of the ordinary the only thing i found. The cases are solved and related to alcohol, you may say yeah right i dont believe it but yo uhave to see the location and the drinking laws are different. also, if you have seen the movie there is suppose to be a real shot of a space ship above her house recorded from a police officer. but you can clearly see trees by the house. Nome has no trees what soever. it is flat and communities are bunched together. i know it was not filmed theie , but what about this so called real footage. maybe nome is a cover up ? and the real place hasn’t been told. maybe Dr.Tyler is an alias name. I believe in this movie as it could be a real story. but i wanna know where and who was really involved.

All of you people that swear you know what you are talking about, you don’t. You truly believe that what you are saying is absolutely true, and quite frankly its making you sound like morons. Their are no facts, so you can’t automatically assume whats true. So when you think what you are saying is true, just remember your statement is just an opinion. However, my opinion on this movie; I believe its actually real. One thing I know is that people do get sued for false advertisement. As far as the archive footage, it seemed really real to me. Watching some ones body and face get disfigured in real life looks completely different from animation. It still haunts me.

yeah the more i think about it…it was a movie from the first credit till the end.

Never once did they say “Based on actuallt events” They chose their words carefully…..

Oh well it was very good and had me for a while….It was atwist on the “Blair Witch” “Cloverfield” I kind of started to beleive it during the movie….. 🙂

Same here……i was sat in the pub downing my 6th pint and I kind oif thought if that WAS real there would have been such a news storm about it in 2002 it would have been unreal. It would have been all over Ypoutube, the Net, etc…..LOL I f*** actually beleived it was real until I got home….

Any how well done. You got me. It was VERY well done.

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Well crap!! I just watched it. I can honestly say that I thought the movie was very convincing, that’s why I am here, trying to find out if it is based on real events or not.

First of all youtube did not come out till feb 05, secondly the video in the movie wit the doctor giving the interview happened in 2002.

after studying and putting the facts together i really dont think nome is the real place of all these obductions , and i dont think dr.tyler is the real name. i think the directors picked nome as a cover up because it has some dissapearances linked to it.nome has no trees and like i said in the footage from the police car that was supose to be real had trees in it. im almost posative this is real. but not in nome, and there is no dr.tyler. that was a cover up name. but i think that was the real lady and footage in the movie , but there is some true facts they are hiding.

I’m still looking into if the “actual footage” is actual footage.
But for arguments sake lets say it is.
This encounter seems to be demonic, which I s’pose could be considered ‘alien’. The entity says it is “I AM” which is what God called Himself when He spoke to Moses. And, outrightly, the entity calls itself God. Satan has disguised himself as God as referenced historically and has declared his desire to be worshiped instead of God as referenced biblically. So, you have a non-benevolent being that has nowhere the powers of God claiming to be god. Sounds satanic to me
I have had encounters that I would say are demonic. Nothing to the degree of the film but with similarities…I was in a light sleep, there were no shapes but a definite sense of the presence of a conscious entity, the feeling of evil (“hopelessness” as described by Dr. Abigail). Fortunately I am a Christian so I can’t be possessed. None-the-less, demonic activity is there. They are ‘alien’ to our existence but are real. A true RELATIONSHIP with the one and only God will prevent possession. If you seek God, with ALL YOUR HEART you will find HIm. And you will be saved.

Haha alright i went and saw this movie tonight and i just thought id share my take on the whole film. after reading the comments and from what i saw i think that it was clearly staged. They made fake news articles as well as used the same props twice. but what really got me was this “acient language” i mean im no historian but why would alians say “i am god”? i mean first of all even through out history civilizations has believed in more then one god and didnt call them god they all had different names. so some alian civilization traveled all this way to abduct people and tell them they were god? hmm sounds to me like theyre just playing on your fears. sleeping dark bed time something watching you at night sneaking into your room and religion. just like jaws why do you think people were afraid to swim at beaches its because they said most shark attacks occur in 3 feet of water or less or whatever they said. its just hollywood and they got you and they got me because i wanted to see for myself and i spent the money. as far as alians go there has to be some out there but im pretty sure this was faked.

well i hate alska and this movie i saw it today and shit my pants ….. since when did hollywood suport meth heads but any ways fake or not fuck u guys cause no ufo shit ever happens in new york (thank u harmeal brookyln ) and if so its alway the ppl who r like “o my god its allens ” and not the ppl who r like “fuck this shit yall r crazy’

ok so i think you all need to smoke a joint and calm the fuck down youre all getting wicked pissed over peoples opinions its pretty lame…and the owl in the movie was pretty

YOU PEOPLE MAKE NO SENSE! THEY SAID THEIR NAMES WERE CHANGED FOR THEIR PROTECTION! SO NO WONDER YOU CAN’T FIND “ABAGIAL TYLER”! EVERY OPINION I’VE HEARD ABOUT THIS MOVIE BEING FAKE ARE ALL DUMB, IGNORANT RANTS THAT MAKE NO SENSE! CRAP!

@Anya

You don’t think that it is possible for a psychologist and a patient to have the same taste in lighting fixtures and visit the same Home Depot? I think that’s better odds than succumbing to an alien abduction.

@mitch

Aliens are scary, of course they would play to your fears. The good Doctor said that she didn’t believe that it was God. Why should you?

Well crap!! I just watched it last night. I can honestly say that I thought the movie was very convincing, that’s why I’m here, trying to find out if these events actually occured and if the footage shown was actually real or not.

Anya you are a fucking cunt. I hope an alien comes and abducts you cuz i hate people like u. Ur nothing but an immature bitch and the world could use less people like u. And i know ur reading this. Stupid fuck

Thank u cherrykimsicle for speaking the truth. To be great is to be misunderstood. And idk about u but im tired of being surrounded by ppl who are not ready to accept the fact that wen it comes to the grand scheme of the universe, us humans are worth nothing. Ultimately, humans will evolve into a species which has mastered all of the physical laws of the universe. That is what aliens have done. And if we learn to open our eyes, in time we will become them. Everything is possible. By the way,aliens are a type 3 civilization. Us humans are a type 0 civilization.

dude, flav man, alright, AGAIN, YOU TELLING PEOPLE TO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEY READ OR SEE, BUT THERE AGAIN YOU ARE DOING IT IN YOUR OWN POSTS!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK? ARE YOU KIDDING???

ok right here, not a fact, but a opinion you posted as a fact…..,

“In 2006, the Anchorage Daily News did a story on the disappearances in Nome, Alaska (the town in which the film takes place) and provided the FBI’s conclusions about them. What were those conclusions? That the winter climate and alcoholism were to blame for the disappearances of 24 people over 40 years.”

That right there isnt a fact. Its an OPINION. JUST BECAUSE THE POLICE SAY ITS TRUE MEANS IT IS?? OBVIOUSLY YOU NEVER GREW UP ON A REAL STREET ANYWHERE BECAUSE THAT IS A FALSEHOOD. POLICE ARE AS SIMPLE AND CLOSE MINDED AS THE DONUT SHOPS THEY GRAZE IN. THEY SAY SHIT JUST TO FILL THE VOID. SO RIGHT THERE, NOT A FACT. BUTTTTT, YOU WANT TO USE THAT TO DISCREDIT A STORY?? ARE YOU SURE YOUR NOT WORKING FOR THE FBI OR SOME SHIT LIKE THAT? YOU SEEM LIKE A FED..

and mitch, if you didnt know, the ALIENS, in the movie, are your creators, called the annunaki, and my friend, there is more FACTUAL PROOF, MORE PROOF THEN JESUS, MORE PROOF THEN THE PYRAMIDS, THAT THE ALIEN SPEAKING THRU THAT BODY, IS YOURS AND MINE GOD. IF, it happened. But, why would it say i am god? maybe its sending a warning. but of course no one would listen. all you cats do your reading before you post up retarded comments, i feel like im talkin to some retards..

and mitha, talking about jesus? lmao, well, did you know that the sumerians are over 8000 years older then your jesus, then your moses or your egyptians? did you know that more then half of the bible that you read comes from sumerians? did you also know, that, there is no such thing as satan and god? but did you know that there are annunaki? hmmm, geez man i give up, too many fucking retards, you guys are all fucked in the mind, brainwashed and shit, dont know your back from your ass. Brainwashed cats. gotta love them sheeple..

watched the film last night with my girlfriend, and thought it was awesome. i shat myself trying to sleep last night XD you lot really are a bunch of dumbasses. You were told to make your own mind up at the start of the film. not bitch about it. and im sorry but all of your points ar total crap. i read one about how every government has released all their files on UFOs and abductions……XD OMFG WHAT A RETARD. 1- how the hell would you know if they had? cos the government just told you eh? 😀 and they would never release information like that. WW2 info is still classified and confidential you retards. I really liked the film and i dont give a shit what you guys think, it was convincing to me. you all keep pulling up faults, but just stop and think for a sec. would the FBI and the government allow a film release that is 100% accurate? honestly? no, i didnt think so. it has been security checked a million times and many changes have been made so that nothing gets out. thats were your faults come from.

Detroit, I see you are jealous of those who have the truth. But in case someone actually listens to your spew of filth…FYI: making a statement is NOT an argument. If the Sumerian culture predates the Hebrew culture, so what? The Bible isn’t A book; it is a compliation of 66 books. The old Testament has 39 of these. Each book has confirmed authroship with the possible exception of Esther.The confirmation comes both from other books within the Bible, such as Jesus referring to Moses writing the Law (Genesis and Deuteronomy) or from Jewish and Christian scholars. Whenever authorship has been questioned, it was NEVER a question of whether it was someone outside of the the Hebrew nation.
Saying there is no God…do you have proof? No, you don’t. Similarly, do you have prroof there is no Satan? No. The beliefs and scholarship of the last 2000 years are all wrong and you are right just by saying so.But, where is the proof of the existance of annunaki? And either your hypocrisy or your jealousy is revealed when you attack thee person but make so argument for your point (because you don’t have an argument). Seek the LORD with all your heart, if you truly want to know if He exists, and you WILL find Him. If not, you will find Him anyway…in your ending.

Anyone here ever heard of a mokumentary? Well if not, lwt me tell you about what is actually is, there is an actual law stating that a movie can lie and say things are real and that its a documentary without being discredited and fined for false staements, a perfect example, ladies and gentlemen i bring you, “The Fourth Kind”

I wish an alien came and abducted me!!!!! I’m too cool for this world mwhaahhahahha
“Anonymous” – it is sooo cute how you get so angry 😉 LOL. whoever said these people need to smoke a joint is right!!

I wonder if aliens get high, hmmmm……

Okay, Richard, you’re ignorant. Communion by Whitley Strieber is NON-FICTION! Maybe you should actually READ the book! Moron… Anyway, the footage of the interviews and strange phenomenon seem to be authentic. Can’t the producers get in serious trouble for presenting it as true footage? And the whole it’s our choice to believe or not thing at the end means exactly that! Do we believe they were aliens? Do we believe it’s God? The footage you saw on screen does not lie. If it did, then a lot of people would be getting sued as well as bruised asses. Alien abduction is very hard to believe, but all I know is that saying it’s fake with no evidence behind it is ridiculous. The footage had evidence, citation. Actuality. I’m not saying not to be skeptical, but be open minded for Christ’s sake! I swear some of you people always conform to media, what you see and don’t see and what you think is fact and fiction. Both are possible, okay? If humans can hurt humans, life forms can hurt other life forms, then why can’t something we’ve never seen or felt before hurt us the same way? Think about it. The universe is a great thing, and we’re not the only ones residing in it.

Theres Billions of lightyears of other planets out there.. tons of planets that can inhibit life, but i seriously doubt any of them have the technology to get over here, if they are even lifeforms like us, they could just be bacteria, fish, or animals, etc. Pretty sure we are the only intelligent lifeform out there, in the bible it said god created us in his image and i dont recall it saying anything about aliens, lol.. who knows, either way i dont think theres any aliens abducting people.. sounded more demonic to me, and demons & bad spirits and all that are real.. ouija boards‎ for instance, not a smart idea to use because of that reason.. ive had stupid friends that tried it and regretted it

MITHAM YOU ARE THE BIGGEST RETARD ON THE PLANET… WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT THE ANNUNAKI WERE HERE? AND THEY CREATED US??? UMMM WELL, HOW ABOUT THE OVER 50000+ TABLETS AND ARTIFACTS, AND PICTURES,AND MONUMENTS, ETC. ETC. ETC. AND YES, EVEN SCIENTIST SAY NOW, THAT ALL , AND YES I SAY ALLLLLL OF THE STORYS THAT WERE IN THE BIBLE CAME FROM ANCIENT MESOPOTAMIA, BEFORE YOUR PRECIOUS JESUS. AND ALSO, YOU ASK ME ABOUT PROOF??? WERE IS YOUR PROOF ABOUT JESUS. AND NO SIR, IM NOT A BIBLE HATER, AND I DONT HATE JESUS. STOP THAT SILLINESS. BUT, THERE ISNT ONE HISTORIAN OR PERSON WHO RECORDED THERE EVEN BEING A PERSON NAMED JESUS FROM THAT TIME PEROID AT ALL. now, me being me, it could be a few things, it could be they erased him from history, or it could mean that constatine, like i always thought he did to gain power from the people, created jesus as a way to control the people of europe with the church, you see, there really isnt any PROOF, of there even being a jesus. but there is SOLIDIFIED, REAL, PROOF of annunaki being here. ITS IN OUR HISTORY. ALL OVER THE WORLD, EVEN THE MAYANS, THE AZTECS, THE AMERICAN INDIANS, THE CELTICS, ETC. THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ALIEN INFLUENCE ON MANKIND. so get out of here with that brainwashed garble. and if there was a jesus he was probably just a hybrid alien human… man…. lol

also,let me retract the god statement, i meant not the god that christians think he is. why would you believe a religion, that actually has a ton of other religions fused into it?? anyways, if any of you were half as smart as you thought, any trace of the situation being out there would most likely be covered up by the government. And, for people who talk about “demonic” forces. well, just think of it like this. there arent any “demons” the forces are of alien nature. they are evil entitys, and there are good ones. wouldnt it make more sense that angels, “from the heavens” are actually of alien nature celestial beings? and that the aliens as of this nature, would be the evil “demonic” as you would say beings? you have to think, now, back then, why would angels have wings? cause they could fly, why would they have “chariots on fire flying in the sky?” because, that would represent a space ship. The times have changed, you have to think, that, back then they wouldnt know what a space ship was, so they could only compare them with what they thought it could be. If you think that is crazy, then you obviously havent expanded your mind past what CNN or any other government propaganda tool has told you. just look past the B.S. its out there. Aliens, Angels,Demons, God, and so forth, all go together. Its just that back then, they didnt know how to describe. but it makes perfect sense that they go together.

Everything I can tell you is that you should read about spiritual consciousness. They are already here invisible by your blindness and unbelief.

I have been visited by ovnis for long, i saw him here just in my room. I saw their spirits shapes many times, i heard their voices and even tried to talk to them. But the fear is the worst chalange to us, fear is ignorance.

This seems to be a joke or no matter what you want, but the fact is that I have my profs now. I hope you will have your as well, and that you will be prepared for that, cause in 3 years my friends these words will be remeber by who readed.

We are living a new era that is coming soon.

David from belgium..

Well let’s see… I read about halfway down the page… Then I stopped… And here is why:
1. Most people here haven’t researched anything. (MOST people)
2. Most of the posts are obviously personal, rather than talking about the subject at hand- the movie being real or fake
3. Many people don’t even know what the hell they think or believe
4. Most posts are loaded with spelling errors.

ok so here is the deal- we are looking at whether this movie is factual or fictious. As we all know, they tell us in the beginning that it is based off of real events blah blah blah. But if anyone here noticed, they say the truth is yours to believe. This is basically their disclaimer, saying if you don’t believe it is true you have the right to. They are basically doing the same thing as paranormal activity, but in a different way. They can get away with saying “believe what you want” unstead of “this movie is fake”… Ect.

The movie is fake. Let’s get that said right off the bat. Let’s be real here; it was obvious the “actual” footage was edited… And that most of the actual names used don’t even exist. The Wall Street Journal actually did a search for Abigail, and they could not find her in Alaskan Phycological documents. Also, if you watch the footage, you see the mouths of the “abducted” person warp and distort very large… Large enough to rip your jaw muscles to shreds and break any bones in your jaw. You can believe the aliens did that and magically fixed their jaws right? Oh but let’s not forget the mans back and neck vertabrae were severed. Also, why would aliens just randomly “abduct” someone because they are under hypnosis? And the thing is they aren’t even being “abducted” they are being POSSESSED. It is kind of obvious how different abduction and possessition are. And also, why would aliens let you see their ship BEFORE distorting the images? And why distort the images, but let the whole word hear you speak this “ancient” language? You don’t think they would distort the audio also?

But, who is to say aliens don’t exist? Who is to say that we aren’t being abducted every night in our sleep and our memories being erased? There are millions of reports and I have trusted family members that wouldn’t make stuff up go insane after being “abducted”. The fact is that there are things going on we cannot explain and cannot understand. Our universe is HUGE and we barely know 1/1,000,000 of all planets or bodies in our universe. You think we are the only intelligent life? Get real. Learn some statistics and probabilities.

Anway, I’m not saying I believe either way about aliens. For all I know it could be demons it could be monsters or it could be our own government. What I am saying is that I will believe things that I see. If I get abducted or suddenly rememer being abducted that’s what I’m going to believe. But right now I’m not going to say skinny grey beings are sucking us up to invisible metal flying saucers in the sky to do tests on me that they have done millions of times already. Sorry.

okTrueIntelligence thank u cause i knew ppl poked holes in it before it came out but i didnt know what but shitttt thats some scary ass shit even if it is fake i mean damn i almosted pissed myself and thats what a scary movie should do so fuck it if its real or not its one hell of a movie .. funny in some parts and damn right shit ur pants in others

Well, all I have to say is… “Duhhhh!”.

I mean, folks, really. This is a movie. It’s not real. None of it is real. It is made by a MOVIE STUDIO and WRITERS.

Both of the “Dr Tyler” characters are played by actresses. Again, “Duhhhh”. And Please do at least a little bit of research into what the conclusions are to the FBI investigations into the disappearances in Alaska.

Isn’t it kind of funny that they all appear to have had alcohol involved? And isn’t it kind of funny that frigid temperatures can kind of contribute to oh, say, FREEZING TO DEATH AFTER PASSING OUT OUTSIDE? And isn’t it kind of obvious that the indigenous creatures of Alaska would want to drag off and eat any nice, fresh meat they find laying around, whether it’s human, animal, or any other type of meat?

And maybe there are some murders involved. Definitely possible. But isn’t it also kind of funny that we are talking about a period of over 40 years, and that seems like it could also be the time period of a serial killer’s tenure in any given area?

For some people, the most plausible and obvious explanations are the most suspicious… because when you are a conspiracy believer, you are locked into a closed belief system, and any evidence against the conspiracy simply becomes part of the “vast coverup”.

Ask yourself… “What evidence would convince me that there is no conspiracy here?”. If your answer is “there is no evidence, because it’s all part of the coverup”, you are hopelessly lost in a world of silliness, paranoia, and anomaly hunting. And that’s a really sad place to be. People who believe in grand conspiracies are incredibly closed-minded. It’s the only way that they can validate their wacky logic processes.

In regards to this stupid movie (remember, folks, it is a MOVIE, just like the Blair Witch Project was), all of the “actual footage” was staged, portrayed by actors, and digitally enhanced. And I wouldn’t consider any of it to be “evidence” even if it was “actual footage”. It’s so suspicious to me that every time some alien visitation video is presented, it always JUST SO HAPPENS to go all fuzzy or jerky or grainy juuuuuuust at the moment that something compelling would present itself. Let’s also remember that with the advent of photo and video manipulation software that is available to anyone with a computer, these types of “evidence” are being reduced to unacceptable forms of proof of anything… But especially when it comes from a MOVIE STUDIO. Please, people, THINK for just a moment. Please. Just take a deep breath, and THINK.

I believe that alien visitation is completely plausible, even given the tremendous travel limitations that would be presented by sheer distance and the Theory (LAW) of Relativity. Although I haven’t figured out why any species would travel over a hundred thousand years to get here so that they can hide and core out the anuses of cattle and make pretty patterns in crops (don’t even get me started on how silly crop circle believers are).

Absolutely all of the “evidence” that a lot of people are willing to accept as “proof” of such phenomena is pure garbage. And 1 million pieces of garbage don’t add up to “evidence”. They just add up to a pile of garbage a million pieces high.

Thanks for thinking. Or at least trying.

7mile Detroit Baby, I think your the biggest moron here. Stop acting like you know exactly what you are talking about. I feel slightly stupid for reading your whole dumb-ass comment. Let me just say if you cant prove a single thing you say, then you shouldn’t say anything. At least some the people know what they are saying is their opinion. You however, swear that what you say is factual. This is why the alien species is more advanced then us, because we got dumb fucks like you.

RationalistResponder, once again your comment is just an opinion. You don’t know shit.

RationalistResponder, actually not just that, but also you have no sense towards statistics and probability. Your talking about millions on top of millions of witnesses, victims, evidence, and conspiracies. All relating to be fake. I know your not suppose to be gullible, but you half to believe some one is telling the truth. Your just using your opinion as a comfort blanket. Meaning you don’t want to believe it because you know you would be scared.

Detroit…typical hate-mongering of those who have no argument…attack the person instead of the issue. Don’t dis. me …try to dis. God:

2nd Thessalonians 2:9-12 “9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.”

Its a good movie weather its real or not. People should stop insulting it. people should post more mature comments and not just their own opinion and learn how to type correctly. Has anyone found anything online that would lead them to believe it may be real. All i could find was unsolved disappearances that they blamed on alcohol or a possible serial killer and did no further investigations. It may be possible that these were not the true cause of disappearances but were the easy resolutions to telling the public. And also Im not saying that these videos are true because so far no one knows but someone said that if they were real why wouldn’t they have already showed them on public television? Educate yourself go look up rosswell and other alien sightings. The reason we are not told about them is because the government may be covering it up to prevent widespread panic. Many people would be terrified if they were openly told by the government or news that there was evidence of aliens. People killed themselves after thinking that aliens were coming to earth just from a false act of entertainment on the radio. A lot of people in our world would not take it the right way if all the evidence was laid out right before them. People want to deny their existence because of fear. I am not saying that this movie is real. That i don’t know. But it was however a very good movie and i am glad i went to see it. People need to stop insulting it so much and saying that it offends them. Go educate yourselves about the information out their before trying to deny it.

I downloaded the movie and analyzed those footage’s. If you go to the end under Dr tylers hypnosis and slowed down the footage, where you could see pic by pic of the action. I’m telling you, that’s not something animated. When you look at her eyes and see her whole body twitch back and fourth, its different watching it happened to real a person.

from YHOO Movies. I agree:
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For those willing to buy into The Fourth Kind’s claims of authenticity, the experience is at times genuinely terrifying. But after a while it becomes increasingly obvious that the film’s documentary sequences are staged — and often badly so. Director Osunsanmi brought a clever idea to the table, but he didn’t quite have the skills — or the actors — to pull it off, and the result feels like an elaborate cinematic con-job.

hmmm, adam, i dont know bro, really, i dont care. i really dont care if the movies real or not. who cares? it might be, it might not. but all i know is, that some weird shits been going on in alaska for a long time now. There was actually a sighting (even by the state senator himself) of a giant large bird thing that was the size of a 747 jet, it was on this news, but only for a brief second. Who knows man, life is ill. either way, annunaki exists. just study up on it. and as for the bible. why do people try to solidify the bible by reading quotes from it? how does that solidify? at least read the original version and not the hacked up king james version. also did you know that shakespeare wrote the king james version? and he was a homo. so , thats it, good day people, you either believe or you dont. i believe in god thats all that matters. who he is we will never know until we meet him. good night, peace, love, and all the rest…

That’s actually much better. You see, you sound more intelligent their, and yes you are right, the movie can be real or fake. One thing that I suggest is to download the movie, and analyze the footage’s yourself. Your going to see what I’m talking about. Like I said Before, people do get sued for false advertisement, and the movie didn’t just say that it was based on actual case studies, they also said it was a reenactment. The thing is that the movie brought some compelling evidence. If the movie was fake, then the producers would half to disclose the names of those people in the footage’s at the end credits. You cannot find those names anywhere. One thing that you said that I don’t agree with is that the aliens could be angels, demons, and even god. You are entitled to your own opinion, but when you claim that its true, its going to get some people mad.

I’m a Christian who believes that aliens are demons trying to get you to take your eyes off God because when Lucifer was cast out of heaven with one third of the angels, God gave him power and authority over the first and second heavenlies (first being the earth and the air around it, second being what we call space, or the universe, heaven being the third heavenly realm, beyond space or time), so the devil and the demons inhabit earth and space. Having said all that, I just enjoyed the movie! Who cares if it’s fake or not? I had absolute CHILLS running down my spine when the camera panned in a circle around the owl, and it followed the lens, twisting its head in a full circle, its black eyes looking so alien-like… THATS what going to the movies is about!

Well, think what you like, the film was weird.

Me and a friend were discussing the ramifications of the aliens accidentally abducting the toaster or the fridge – I have reason to believe people on this discussion board would do well to obtain a sense of humor. If the footage was real, and not a meretricious attempt to distort actual facts, then it’s pants-shittingly good.

The aliens make reference to scripture and God, most Christians think aliens are demons. That’s not to say they are demons, but if I were to try and convince a silly (half) intellectual being that I was God, I probably wouldn’t abduct them and subject them to extreme pain. Maybe we offend God though every time we pretend to understand his motives and thoughts. Maybe, just maybe, WE are the messed up ones. Get the book “the only planet of choice”, good stuff.

Another thing, the script for the aliens is like hagiography, if it was scripted at all. Aliens quoting scripture, geez. If these smokey eyes gray thin sticks start quoting scripture to me, I’ll throw myself of their ship !_!….. God isn’t found in scripture it’s found in life, children and nature.

Not to double post or anything, there’s a lot I have to say.

If aliens abduct you and you’re scared, you’re just a scared abductee. Fear should play no part in your life, of anything misunderstood. If you fear the unknown then everything in your life will dominated through fear (as circumstances usually manifest from the unknown). If a black eyes cigarette wannabe comes and takes you, go with it. Do a little dance, make jokes and sing. I think that’d creep the alien out more than a stupidly annoying high pitched scream (which any mortal and intelligent life form would want to silence with due haste). Or go one better, lay a trap, wait for the alien to come and abduct him/her/it, take it to see the fourth kind yourself and see if it shifts uncomfortably in its’ chair, if so, it’s real! Bingo. Solution!

Okay after reading some of these comments I would just like to say I cannot stand this anya person. As for the issue, most of what I would normally say regarding the movie has been stated so I’ll skip that. Anya, honestly, find something better to do with your time. I guarantee you wouldn’t have said any of this in person to anybody. NEWS FLASH: No one likes people like you who have fights online and don’t do anything in person. So go outside and take a jog I bet you could use one…

Look its simple, in a town like Nome, or any other town in the United States, A man shooting his family would be in the newspapers on a state level. Theres just no way to get around that. Also in a tow like Nome it’s doubtful that everyone doesn’t have a very good idea who everyone is. Something like a family shooting where the doctor was so deeply implicated would have most likely ruined her practice and she would have been ruined. If anyone is truly interested in learning whether this movie is the truth they would simply have to check google to see if there has ever been any family shootings in Nome alaska, from my investigations of Alaskan newspapers im drawing a big no… So how can any of the movie be real if one of it’s major depictions has shown itself so readily to be false. Logically it makes no sense? Cover up? In this particular case I don’t think so(beyond the fact that the footage is very gaudy) but if your really interested in conspiracies “Behold a Pale Horse” is quite interesting though it takes a open and subjective mind

You people need heavy doses of Prozac; it’s Hollywood making money, get over it!

Ethan – NEWS FLASH: you are one of them, you idiot!!!!!! I WIN. (again)
Ok i’m off for that jog now. Gotta lose a good 200 lbs – aliens can’t abduct me if i can’t fit in their space ship now, can they?

Well after seeing the film which was good as it provoked a reaction to look deeper!
Then after Reading some or most of the comments, I think we have all missed the term ‘real footage’ the fact they said that it is real footage is fine, as at the end of the day it Is real as anything we make in life is real! So it’s real! We are just stupid to think that it’s actual recorded live footage! It’s a twist on words that’s all this film is about! Not a bad story but silly fake that can mislead people! Of course there is other planets that can support life! Maybe we are all aliens ourselves as we are destroying the planet! Whenever you introduce an alien species into a new environment it always ends in disaster! It was probably an amazing place without us!

I personally think that, although this movie may be fake(or real), none of us have any hard proof to determine so, one way or the other. And honestly I don’t think the movie is intended to be taken as hard evidence for anything. It’s simply meant to inspire you to decide if you believe in such things. I believe that something odd is up with Alaska if the FBI really have made 300 or so visits to just Nome alone. Could be a serial killer or something, who knows. My point is, do some research if you’re really interested in the subject. Decide for yourself and don’t let some e-thug tell you what to believe. His opinions are no more valid than your own.

Can i just say, even if the footage was not real it still made a good film, in my local cinemas 1 woman littlerely jumped out of her chair, but the thing that annoys me is where the main character is having a mental image in her head of being taken out her room… now it shows her being taken back asif to say she was pulled back, she states on the film that there was scratch marks on the floor… AND ALSO… why would the ‘Aliens’ go INSIDE the house and take them? where at the end they supposedly BEAM her THROUGH the house and into the ship.

Fail

All i wanna say is that this ANYA person is fuckin hilarious!!!

ok people.
seriously …
believe what you want.
i actually believe in aliens because nobody actually knows if theyre real or not.
theres alot of weird and strange things in this universe and nobody really knows for sure.
F.B.I. & government are definally going to cover stuff up about aliens.
they dont want everybody to freak out about it and stuff.
why do you think your not allowed to go to area 51?
they’re obviously hiding stuff they dont want you to see.
top secret stuff.
you tell me?
figure out how to become a worker at area 51 and actually do it,
then come back and tell me what you’ve seen.
im sure there hiding aliens and stuff there.
did you kno,
everytime theres a ufo sighting or somebody knows to much information about area 51 and aliens and sorts of stuff, these guys that are called “men in black” actually show up at your house and threaten you.
only if its something serious though.
but yea believe what you want.
theres evidence out there and proof where real alien life could be real.
maybe one day they will come to the planet and actually show themselves.
and when that day happens, you’ll know for sure. or IF it happens.

I like the comment about the “REAL FOOTAGE” and real footage actually being anything that is shot with a camera lol *THUMBS UP*

In regards to the movie and this footage I didnt make it and after reaing up on it this is all getting me aslightly confused! I believe that the footage is real or at least i hope it is… I also agree with the comment about some facts being left out as Alaska i mean NOME is more or less flat landscape so it was prabably shot there to make more creepy and add extra effect… the video would be distorted due to the space ships anti gravity possibly something to do with magnetism? to make it float and interference with the camera I dont know just something interesting to think about how you would actually defy gravity but then again maybe space ships are just advanced engines sch as jump jets they can hover! We are nearly there! kinda… lol

all in all the movie was fantastic in my opinion i enjoyed it and my friends did too 🙂

I b I may not be a believer in this footage or I might be Because I am skeptical as anybody should be until they see it for their self but I want to believe its true… i really do and im 50/50 =D

So Thumbs up to the fourth kind =)

PS: to the people who dont like this movie i think that you should stick to comedies you probably would enjoy them more imo as this was a good movie for any person into sci-fi according to reviews all over the internet and magazines 🙂

I don’t know if the events which the film claims to be based on are real or not. What i do know is that a lot of films claim to be based on real events but in actual fact, what it is based on is very little, such as places, or small 5 minute scenes in the film. However, I don’t seem to be able to believe that the footage in this film is real, simply for the fact that I don’t think the FBI would ever let it be released for open public viewing as it would cause panic in the public. For all I know, they may have written somewhere in the credits that the footage is not real. They will have to state if it isn’t, but that doesn’t mean it needs to be in big bold capitals.
Who knows ey.

“Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?”

I am one of those few that have seen various ships with my own eyes and just because you haven’t seen or haven’t been affected by something doesn’t mean it does not exist. Those that only believe we are the only ones in the universe are parasites that don’t even know what goes around the world they live in. I study ancient cultures including the Sumerians and all the different cultures of the ancient world had gods or supreme beings that eventually disappeared or never came back. Having a thing in common that they rode “clouds, chariots of fire, flying horses, etc”. Being ignorant in the most simplest of things, who do you think you are to say what is and what isn’t? Out of 6,692,030,277 inhabitants of this world most of you ignore what fully happens in the life of 2 of those 6 billion, so how would you know if this hasn’t happened to at least one human?
Most people disagree with there being life in other planets and with space ships coming and going into earth, but why doesnt that people investigate with the French and the English government which has released all the paperwork to the public referring unidentified flying objects and other sightings? By the way the term ufo was made up by our governments to refer to vehicles and other flying craft that wasnt identified, so if they didnt exist why would the term UFO exist?

Well said Bryant! I totally agree with your statement there, it would be naive to think that we are alone. The governments have released documents and archives relating to UFO’s and the unexplained which to be honest are explained! Its explained by extra terrestrials visiting us from other planets.

Our technology boom has hit us within the last 100 years, who says another planet like ours had their technology boom 500 years ago or 1000 years ago and their technology is that much more advanced allowing them to travel here… something to think about i guess.

There are too many sightings and proof which is all around us, to be able to say simply… its a lie. It cant be and bryant i too believe I have seen something unexplainable Wales UK 6 years ago a strange cloud formation very bright and orange/red of colour I know it is not the typical flying saucer but Maybe it was some weather thing strangest thing is this was moving around and around and eventualy after 40-50 minute it dissapeared… very strange…

Rach I agree… films are a bit over reacted kinda and to think that we cant find this kind of thing on the internet then… well everything is on the internet I have searched everywhere for a legit source, cant find at all. but yeah… maybe it is real maybe not… somebody should search the credits and let us know =D lol

The term “real footage” could be any footage right? like any movie that is made is real footage so they may have used that heh… but it said archived footage, which means the footage has been documented previous to the film therefore it has not been made especially for the film.

Anythoughts about that?

Bryant, you are absolutely right. Statistics go from a wide range, and the probability that something like that could happen to you is relatively small, but very possible. People sound so ignorant sometimes. They choose not to believe when evidence and statistics favor the believers. Besides all those encounters; science reveals a lot. I mean do you know that one of Saturn’s moons contains water and a high viscous atmosphere of methane. That’s signs of beginning vegetation life on a baby planet. Also, you are right about the ufo coming from the government. It stand for Unidentified Flying Object. It doesn’t half to be aliens to be a ufo, but I’m pretty sure you already knew that.

Shuan that does make a lot of sense, but they also said it was an reenactment.

Thank you all for aiding my procrastination. Because I have many more vastly uninteresting things to do, I will contribute.

Why were all of Dr. Tyler’s clients screaming about the aliens opening the door when later in the movie they just send a beam of light THROUGH THE FUCKING CIELING and suck up their prey or whatever? These aliens don’t really seem like the type to use doors, am I right?

Its just something to think about. Honestly, I don’t give a holy flying fuck if this is real or not, because either way Im scared shitless.

Here’s another topic of discussion, the whole “I AM GOD” thing? Okay no. You are not God you alien scumbag. Does anyone else think this is going a bit to far?

hilarious? She/he is a moron who doesn’t realize the reason anon wouldn’t continue reading Anya’s post is because when attempting to call someone a dumbass (I hope) Anya called them a dubmass…this was even quoted directing and the genius still didn’t get it. I can’t believe I read it’s posts…think little girl or teen boy level mentality here and I wish I was abducted as to avoid such idiocy. Children are depressing.

Hmmm, I’ll have to agree with Nick on this one. I am pretty darn hilarious!!! It’s very amusing to see people going crazy over me. 😉

Oh, and i really thought that’s how dubmass was spelled.. oops, my bad. I guess I need to go to school and get my edumacation on so I could be even more effective for this blog! yay

It seems this planet has enough problems without some inconsistent (door abusing) aliens. I mean take the children on this blog – that’s right, i’ll lower myself to a generalization – ON-YA-RA said it right with “children are depressing”, one kicked my friends wing mirrors off becuase he wouldn’t saerve him in a fast food restaraunt, GRAND!

The children of the future indeed, I hope they’re all adbucted. Going out and looking up at the sky, makes you jealous doesn’t it. Where I live there’s always a clear night (unless it’s cloudy) and the stars are always out, you see trails of light all over the place from little comets and whatnot, it’s fascinating. Then BANG you look at Earth again with all those pretty little lights and smoking cars, trains and planes. It’s a damn ugly sight. I say, all the nice people, the pascifists and the charitible, gather in a field and ask to be abducted, beats being here…… Surely.

“take the children on this blog – that’s right” – Immaturity. I love life along with my surroundings 🙂

PS: Raise your children correctly; in a nice environment and they will turn out brilliant. Take the children from where I come from for example, Kind and caring with good educations and loving parents and a bright future ahead of themselves. Generalization is bad in my opinion.

Its only the minority, who cause trouble ^_^

I saw the movie last night. It sucked. Fake crap. Fake characters. Fake footage. Boring movie. People walked out throughout the movie. I had trouble staying awake and nearly fell asleep several times. This movie is a real bore.

Excellent movie, no one really knows if aliens do exist, so with that said “KUDOS” to our government for keeping it that way. I DO BELIEVE.

I don’t think anyone here doesn’t believe there are other forms of life in our universe. Our ever-expanding, infinitely widelargehugeginormicenormous universe.

I agree with mitch. At least at some point. He said that “the aliens were just playing with your fears by saying stuff like ‘I am God'”, which is funny because that’s exactly the same comment I left on another website. Why would the alien want intimidate you like that. There may be reasons unknown to us as to why they’d want to intimidate you and freak you out, like they’re bullies messing with out inferior heads, I mean hey, we have no clue. We’re not supposed to know. But we all have the right to think it’s unlikely… Not impossible, nothing is impossible, but definitely… Very unlikely. The dislocated jaw was creepy, and pretty believable. The actual footage REALLY looked like it was real. Though there’s always the thing to debate: Isn’t it convenient that the alien encounter recorded was a very creepy one, and the aliens were hostile, mysteriours and intimidating() Funny, because that’s exactly the kind of thing that people would like to watch on the movies, and research, then maybe watch the movie again like that girl Anya just to nitpick on things like the furniture. Why aren’t the Chilbolton crop circles made a movie out of() Because those aren’t the aliens people want to see. They want to see bloodthirsty, superior, hostile, intimidating and mysterious aliens.

Again, the bloodthirsty, superior, hostile, intimidating and mysterious aliens are definitely, maybe real (assuming there have been alien encounters in Nome), but it’s still very convenient to filmmakers.

NOTE, BIG NOTE: () <- this is my question mark. Stupid keyboard is broken.

what i am wondering is if any of you ppl that are arguing over whether a movie is real or not realize how pathetic that is

it was fake.

Everyone in this world has turned out to be such non-believers and only believe in themselves. Of course there is something out there, if there weren’t many things on earth could not have been created as well as earth itself. I can’t believe how people within the human race can solely believe that they are truly the only intelligent beings within the entire universe. I believe with all my heart that people are abducted and are used for experiments because I know damn well if an alien crash landed on this planet…which I am pretty sure has already occurred for no one including aliens and humans are perfect, that we would dissect them, analyze there blood, there source of energy and whatever else we would be so curious as to learn and find.

Has anybody ever thought of human beings living across the galaxy. I’m not talking about humanoids; I’m talking about real human beings. I mean think about it, if we hear a lot of conspiracies of our species being abducted, whose their not to say that we haven’t been abducted and brought to other planets, where their we have reproduced. We have found other planets that consist of other elements, but we have found planets where their elements resembles ours. So they say its possible to sustain our way of life on other planets.

Just one question to the writer of this article: Do you believe everything the media and the authorities say? C’mon, do some research on the subject. Whether the footage is completely (or partially) fake or real isn’t the issue. The big picture here is that it could happen, or has happened already in different places all over the world, and that’s what really makes you consider things when you watch this film.

Real or Fake:

After watching the film I decided to do a bit of research to help ease my mind, but let me start with the answer to the most obvious question that this forum was created for. I believe the movie was simply based on a few real events. Though the found footage somewhat sketchy (IMO) once I get a chance to be able to rewind and snap frames to see one girls theory about the lamp. (sorry I only scanned over the post and didn’t fully read them.)

I want to explain something that really has happen to me. (Though I am not saying I was abducted or anything of that nature.) The reason why I am saying this is because it relates to some of what was mention to how the people physicaly felt in the film. like 2 times during my childhood I woke up and was not able to move my body or even speak. I was fully awake and aware, and I was able to move my lips and strained to yell for help, but couldn’t. I did not see anything cause when I was young I was frighten of aliens or the thought there of; for I always slept with my covers over my head. This also happened to me again once when I was 17. After seeing this film only made me remember those times, and because of that it creeped the hell out of me.

As far as the language of the supposed aliens being the Sumerian would make since if you believe that we where created by them. Or infact influenced by aliens at that time in history. Oddly enough some religious people believe our idea of aliens are just simply demons. That during that time Lucifer tried to influence us to think he was our god, but those are mostly the cooks that haven’t even read the old king James version of the bible and studied it.

The movie did use a real basis of knowledge behind it which could give it more truth then a lot of people claim it has. As the one language guy said in the movie; The Sumerian’s oddly due show alot of strange things in there hyroglyphics. Simply google Sumerian.

Now as far as the belief of other complex life I will simply put a quote one person once said. I wish I could remember who it was. ” To think that we are the only life in this entire universe is a very close minded opinion.” why don’t you all google NASA and the planet they have found on another galaxy that has clouds,what seems to be water, and land just like our planet. One of our deep space telescopes found it. There are tons of news articles on that.

Well I apologize for my spelling errors as for the life of me even at my age I am a horrible speller, and I know that some people take offense to that, and even go as far as belittling me or categorizing me as someone with only a 4th grade level of knowledge. As far as that goes there is my 2 cents on the subject.

Thanks,

I just half to comment on the subject one last time, real or fake? Everybody should know what animation is. The fact is even though it could look really real, you still can tell that its fake. However, in those footage’s, you can see that they were physically people. I’m going to school to be a science major. Mainly Physics (the study of energy), and I am a very observant analyzer. For an example, the signal disruption that caused the distortion in the video was caused by a EMW (Electromagnetic Wave). If some one asks I will get into detail on how I know this, but basically it increased the consumption of electricity that upset the balance between the contrast ratio (the balance between light and darkness that specifies a color). You will be surprised how much sense this movie makes.

I was looking for articles on conversational hynosis, believe it or not, when I came across your great post which got me thinking and lead me to what I was looking for. Strange world isn’t it.

There are a few things I think need to be addressed. First and foremost is the veracity of this movie. Whether it is a compilation of true and related events or a complete work of fiction is up to you to decide. That is the hook of the movie. The questions and debates that it raises are the whole point of making a movie like this. I personally beleive in this phenomenon. I believe that something very strange and frightening happened in Nome, Alaska in October of 2000. Either a Psychologist went bat-shit crazy after her husband killed himself or there were some documented abductions and people’s lives were changed forever. The question is, have any of you been to Nome, Alaska and asked around about it? Didn’t think so. Neither have I. Therefore I, personally have an unfounded belief that the events are true and did infact take place. I am also a believer in Hollywood’s ability to do some very tricky and deceptive things. If you don’t believe, you are not a “fucking idiot” or a dumb-ass. You are entitled to your own oppinion. Just be alittle more open minded.

Strat:

The sleep thing you are talking about is actually pretty common. I am a RPSGT ( Registered Polysomolographic Technologist) and it is called “cataplexy”. It is a symptom of narcolepsy but I really would’nt worry about it. I have had it several times and it is nothing.

Just watched the movie….i liked the docu-re-enactment concept..as far as i’am concerned , it was overall a better movie than “paranormal activity”..They should change the title to “pathetic activity” , that would better describe the movie.i think too much hype over a sub-par flick.Too boring ,overated , and definitley not scary…lol

“The Fourth Kind” delivered.Regardless what any one person might say about the flick, it made me jump a couple of times…lol…along with everyone else..lol

As far as whether or not the footage is faked or real, I’am not sure…there’e at least a couple scenes during the movie where the “real” footage is eeringly believable, if not down right creepy..l

if certain “real” footage scenes were faked,they done a superb job in my mind.And the bodily possessions in the footage,well,if they are really actors,nominate them for academy awards, because they’re performances sent a solid chill up my spine…lol

Aliens should be the furthest thing from your minds because your country is about to get its guts stompped the fuck out. Your arrogance that this cannot or will not happen seals your fate.

the film is inspired from reality. who ever seen Nome knows that is true.

Ken, are you speaking from experience?

The film its self tries to hard for my liking the fake footage really does not look real and the (actress) who plays the doctor has been in other films.
That said the film is worth a watch and if you dont take it to seriously you should enjoy it.

Usually, when you start a project like that, you make a documentary, not a hollywood blockbuster. Just a fact that this “true” story was turned into a blockbuster, rather than a sensible documentary leads to a suspicion that it’s fake.

not my experience. But I know people who have been experienced “things”, creepy enough to get crazy any of us.

Well Ken, I was asking if you have been to Nome? I was asking because its a very small town. Its one of those places where everybody knows everybody.

after seeing stupid not scary movies like paranormal activity this was just great. i don’t know if it’s real but it did scared me so it was worth my money.

I just watched it for the first time- and love the filmmaking and mixture of realities, and the big reveal as to wether this is fake or not- is in the credits. As a documentary filmmaker there are many many legalities one has to obtain to use footage in a film that comes from somewhere else.

If the video footage existed in real life, the filmmakers would have had to obtain the rights and permissions to use it- these permissions legally would exists in the credits the same way music would. Pick up any documentary that contains footage from other places or watch the credits on your favorite history channel program. The footage would have to credited to the owner or owners representation if they wished to remain anonymous or sold it to a footage company. None of these exist in the credits, but a “video” crew does.

AND- if this footage was real and fell in the hands of a filmmaker- the biggest question not addressed here- Why the hell would you make a hollywood dramatization of it and not a straight up documentary?If it was in fact real footage-then a documentary would have been the best choice to tell the story.

What we have here is a great “What if story”, written by a talented filmmaker who knows how to blur the lines between fact and fiction and stir up debate. In that, it is seriously successful. Even I had to double check on the internet- wanting to believe the story, knowing it is fake.

this movie is fake from start to end, but if the aliens were Abduction us trust me we would know it.
because if there were some who had so much technologischen and then visited our planet, then it was because we had something they could use.
the aliens would not just come and take in secret, we would know it.
and the idea that we get Abduction by aliens is just ridiculous, makes no sense.
I agree with many here in the blog, but just do not understand those to believe in it.

@Yek – Ever heard of “Google”? If you look into this there are THOUSANDS of documented information and facts/sightings etc etc… There was a documentary on television BBC THREE last week about aliens. That was Public PROOF that they do exist. I dont know why you say “trust me we would know it.” Because if you are speaking about it YOURSELF clearly YOU know it lol… and the very fact we are all talking about this debate i guess that everything that you have said doesnt really make sense.

I respect the comments of the “filmmaker” I have no experience or knowledge about that so I’ll just take your word for that. Regardless… if the movie is fake which is probably is due to I doubt that governments would let something like that go public on this… scale. So to conclude this I PERSONALLY agree with filmmakers comments as it makes sense… So movies fake but the reality of it we are not alone in this universe/galaxy/space/time whatever u want to call it. Is there anybody here who is seriously nieve enough to state “NO”? No life on ANY other planet in all time and space? If you look into it a bit and understand the sheer size of whats out there… You gotta just come to terms with it.

Peace

At Yek – Ever heard of “Google”? If you look into this there are THOUSANDS of documented information and facts/sightings etc etc… There was a documentary on television BBC THREE last week about aliens. That was Public PROOF that they do exist. I dont know why you say “trust me we would know it.” Because if you are speaking about it YOURSELF clearly YOU know it lol… and the very fact we are all talking about this debate i guess that everything that you have said doesnt really make sense.

I respect the comments of the “filmmaker” I have no experience or knowledge about that so I’ll just take your word for that. Regardless… if the movie is fake which is probably is due to I doubt that governments would let something like that go public on this… scale. So to conclude this I PERSONALLY agree with filmmakers comments as it makes sense… So movies fake but the reality of it we are not alone in this universe/galaxy/space/time whatever u want to call it. Is there anybody here who is seriously nieve enough to state “NO”? No life on ANY other planet in all time and space? If you look into it a bit and understand the sheer size of whats out there… You gotta just come to terms with it.

Peace

However something that is always in the back of my mind…is what if? Just what if we’re not actually ignorant and we just may be the first lifeforms in this oh so very old universe? Can it be possible that out of all the years that this universe has been around only now some type of life form exist? Are we the center of it all, the very beginning of life in something so old to our knowledge or are we apart of an experiment something bigger than we will ever know. As I type the question gives me goosebumps….

ok 2 things 1 why does so much of the human race beleive that we are wacthed over by beings in another dimension that have control over our lives deaths afterlife etc but we are in such adament denial of aliens or any kind of no human intelligence and 2 why do you all want to deny it anyway do you really want to believe that us and our psychotic homocidal suicidal race are the only being in an ever expanding space ????? i dont get that kind of thinking really. i dont know if this movie was real or fake wht i do know is there is no damn way we are completely alone here jus cant be that way call it faith that i think that way but dont call it insanity cuz i can say the same damn thing about all those crazy as religous ideal out there ps : why get so upset that they faked the sights and footage waa waa it made a friggin awesomely rousing movie now didnt it i dont see why people can say the director is a bad filmmaker when the job of a filmmaker is to touch his adience in some way or another and from all these blogs about fake vs real he sure as hell did a good job at it. sry for prattling on but thats my peace had to speak it

one more thing why the hell does one need to use perfect grammar and spelling jus to be taken serously and avoid ridicule really thats jus ignorant ok so wht if your grammar or/and spelling are better then someeone elses big friggin woop if you commented enough to tell them they had bad speeling or whatever then obviously you knew wht they were saying so there shouldnt be any problem srry was off topic but on my mind peace

Well, they certainly did their job and got us all talking about aliens and shit.

The “real” Dr. Tyler as shown in the “documentary” sections of the film, was pathetically and ghostly grey – it was quite unreal and her demeanor not natural either. The film is fake. Any psychologist with and ounce of ethics would not be counselling clients shortly after a home intrusion, let alone, an intrusion where your husband was “murdered” right beside you. That’s just fucked up ethics.

The film sucks really and it’s only draw is that it attempts to trick us into thinking it’s real – it’s a fascinating attempt and perhaps worth the exercise for us all for the development of critical thinking skills to carry us forward into an information era where just about anyone can claim what that purport is true.

Wow I think that “nothanks” just answered our question! Other beings from out of space are HERE on earth! “nothanks” you are clearly an alien! nobody writes their view with such perfect english!

RESULT: MOVIE TRUE (WATCH 10 TIMES) – REAL LIFE ALIENS TRUE (nothanks, is an alien)
CASE CLOSED.

well.. they did theyr job with ancient sumerian…
sug-zag-gi4…gu7: to destroy (‘swamp’ + ‘territory’ + ‘to surround’ + ‘to finish off’).
searched just this 1.. http://www.sumerian.org/sums-z.htm

anyway who the fuck cares if the names and the footage were real or not? or aliens or ufo-s? go sleep, watch ur clock getting to 3:33 am and if ur’e seeing owls at ur window.. then u’re fucked..:P

One of the arguments that the film is fake (albeit a very good one on my opinion) is also a loose end I have noticed in the movie. It’s about the night of Ashely’s abduction, when the policeman overseeing Abigail’s house, calls his sheriff based on something he SAW happening at the house. Alas, the camera didn’t record much, but the policeman was a witness and he really freaked out – that much that he called for his boss. The sheriff comes and the first thing he does is to accuse Abigail of doing something bad to her daughter. How come that at this moment Abigail didn’t ask the sheriff: “How come that you are here ? Why did you come ? How did you know that something happened here INSIDE THE HOUSE ?” The fact is that the sheriff was called based on something which happened OUTSIDE and yet, he asks about things that happened INSIDE. A confrontation between Abigail and the policeman could have been clarifying a lot. I also didn’t see the policeman being questioned further during the investigation of Abigail’s disappearance, which I don’t think would have happened in real life.
Such loose ends are characteristic to movies, not reality and I think it proves that the film is what it is – just a (good) movie.

So i noticed that they play the “real” footage along with the dramatical footage for the first time but in the caption it says “actual audio” not actual video. in doing this they are training our brain to associate the worse quality footage with real so when it comes to the scenes where the “aliens” take over peoples bodies and it switches to the lesser quality video, we think its real without any caption stating that it is real footage. It is similar to a psychological tactic used in sales. You ask only questions with “either or” answers instead of “yes or no” answers. This way you train the client to agree with everything you say because you do not give them a chance to disagree. EG. If you were to buy this item would prefer it in white or black? It is a very underhanded way to sell in my opinion but for a movie I have to say it is a good tactic, at least the first time its used, because it got me at least believing in the footage while watching the movie. though i questioned its validity shortly after, leading me to this and other sites. I can honestly say it scarred that crap out of me when i believed it lol. As for the audio recording of the night when the doc falls asleep and records supposed Sumerian well it states that they are playing “actual audio” so I am inclined to believe that it is, though who really knows. I have to say it would make the world a little more interesting if at least the audio they state as “actual audio” is real, even though there is most likely a boring scientific explanation for the recordings if they are, but thats just my opinion.

Well i could not sleep the night i watched this that’s for shure.

Paranoia is a horrible thing.

Wow. This thread is thoroughly as entertaining as the movie was. (I liked it btw) People really do get pretty passionate about their opinions on here, though I notice that a lot of the persons stating so-called facts (for either side of the argument) rarely post any links to the info they spurt out. Not saying anyone is making it up, I just find it curious…

As to the real vs fake topic, who knows? Some say “if it was real the government wouldn’t allow it to be released.” True…but what if they KNEW everyone would say that, so they allowed truth to be told? We are naturally skeptics so this theory could be true…or not…

Some people also mention that if certain “actual footage” events really happened, they’d be in a newspaper somewhere. I know everyone here has witnessed some sort of event (whether it be UFOs or just a bunch of cop cars somewhere) and never seen, heard, or read anything about it. If everything that happened was printed or publicized, I think we’d all feel pretty scared and depressed with humanity! My point is that the lack of publicized proof is not necessarily a reason to think that none of this has happened. I’m not saying it did or didn’t, just throwing that out there!

All of what I say is just opinion and my thoughts…hopefully someone won’t call me a child or an alien…(there is a spell checker on this thing btw…that’s funny but doesn’t mean someone’s opinion is worth less than someone else’s…it just means they either were in a hurry or don’t care about spelling!) But yeah, I am neither child nor alien nor expert on anything of use (I have a Bachelor’s Degree of Art in Graphic Design and a Minor in Art History).

Thanks for reading and I look forward to more posts. haha (^_^)

well… that guy (segaJENesis) is DEFINATELY an alien LOL!

@segaJENesis – This may sound “stupid” even though off topic, but how well can you create a 3D Letter which could stand out and be converted to PNG with extra effects (Static)?

Sorry about the off topic question =)

I’m a girl…JENesis haha 😉 and you got me…I’m an alien…dangit I’m totally busted!

As to the question about the letter and extra effects…that is easily possible with the programs of today. I am not proficient in video graphics but I could probably take a decent stab at it 🙂 You can use Adobe Fireworks to edit PNGs with animation. I’ve never used it, but it can be done! haha

btw for people looking for a link with some actual info, Chapman University commented on their involvement with the film: http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/a-clockwork-orange/fourth-kind-olatunde-osunsanmi/

(^_^)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL alcholism and climate. they should have cover this TRUE fact better so we can belive theyr nonsens. it is all TRUE

The writer and director of this movie has everyone talking about it and researching it and that’s exactly what they wanted…great job!!!I loved the movie and totally fell for it, real or not…It scared the crap out of me.
Why?
Because abductions are real, UFO’s are real and we are not alone.
Anyone who care’s to question this please do some research on the internet…there is enought evidence to convince any rational, sane and logical person.

this movie is so fake and it really pisses me off! They make money of telling us lies. The real Abigail in the movie is not real at all.. her name is Charlotte Milchard and she is not an insane nor ufo victim she is simply an actor.. not a very good one either.
Still not convinced ? Check this out;

http://www.charlottemilchard.com/home.shtml
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2598903/

Rune, you cant just assume everything you think is real. So what the person you mention looks a little like her, but so do a million other people in this world that just resembles me. Your pointing a finger at some one with out knowing the facts. Unless you know her personally, theirs no way you can say its her. The fact is; their is no facts. Ooh and one more thing, one of those links is imdb(internet movie database). If she had a role in the movie, it has to disclose that information.

Charlotte Milchard… that is the name of the actress that plays the role of the “Real” Abbigail Tyler on the movie. Sandra, from Argentina xx

Adam!! I don’t know if you looked closely but she is no lookalike.. She ain’t exactly got a “normal” face.. If you don’t think it’s her you are just in denial! And remember google is your friend.. If you are not convinced just google it 🙂 Or do as they want believe it’s real footage =)

Its not denial. I youtube mindflesh making of the monster part 3. To see how she looks like on video. Check it for yourself, you can change your accent, but you cant change your vocals. Also changing your tone is not changing your voice. Some people think otherwise.

People, do you all need a proof that the footage are all fake?
well … there is no hypontizing thing, hypontizing like the one that they taped it, that a normal pshyoclogist can do, that way is like making you all calm to speak your mind clearly, what the fuck hypontzing that a psychologist can do ?
this prove it’s all a lie, but after all, seek the goods from the movie, believe on god, the real god, the one god, the god who give us strength and love to keep on.
I know some of you will say in their mind “you religious shit”, but it’s fine, I used to be like most of you, but… light will never be dark, I based my belief on my feelings and then on facts and yes God exist, we all to follow him… and if alliens exists or not, I really have no idea, but what I know is we are God’s strongest creatures, we will burn any creature who try to harm us to the groud, starting from the devil.
Up the humans, GOD FTW.

Are you on crack? Hypnotizing is 100% real, I know because I have hypnotized people b4. If you don’t know anything about it, then you shouldn’t say its fake. OOh and learn some fucking grammar, at least where people know what the fuck your saying.

@Adam
I don’t really care about grammar, since am not a native speaker.
and hypontzing by counting to 10 is not true, I’ve visit a phsyologist b4, and he did this to me, it’s not hypontizing, it’s like calming all of you and seperate you from the world, but you have to do big effort to feel it, to feel that u r seperated from the world, and no matter how far u go with this point, u’ll still feel the real world as 40%, so chill… hypontizing can’t do such a thing, and the movie is a big lie, to prepare ppl for the UFO, that some groups will make them up, for many goals.

You only saw the part when they turn on the camera and started filming. You don’t know what they said b4 they turned it on. Hypnotism is easy then you think. All you half to do is guide a persons mind to where they feel comfortable to listen to your every command. You talk and bring out the subconscious mind. Ooh and you should care about grammar, at least to the extent where people understand what you trying to say. Otherwise your just writing for yourself.

the actress that played the “real” abigail tyler
her name is charlotte milchard
there is the proof we all need that the movie and the footage is all faked!

Hmm ok I see very interesting mmhmm yes I concur this is very disturbing indeed I’m totally with you post #134 it is very true what you say that alienlife exist and about your abduction I feel with you man I would’ve crashed that UFO if they tried to analprobe me like they did to you..
Love&Peace Now Beam Me Up Scotty I’m Reeeaaaady For The Big Ride.

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Every thing on this film is fake completely , the person who plays abigail in the “actual footage” is actor Charlotte Milchard and their is a passage near the end of the credits that state everything used in the movie is completely fictitious. Universal pictures even had to pay 20000$ to the Alaska press club to compensate for fake documents that were created to increase their profits

you know this may or may not be true but do not be fooled, there ARE documented cases of this kind of thing happening either paranormal or alien. granted that the state of minds of the “patients” are skeptical u cannot denie that every documented case is a coinsidence, over 15 million coinsidences dont just happen. eurpean governments may release documents explaining all sorts of things but just because its an answer with a government seal on it makes it the right answer. a half truth is stronger than a fib, its true denie it or not its true. the american government is like a silent killer, wont admit wont denie, completly nuetral leaving the jury to created the history of what happened for them. heres a question for everyone, why does the government waste money on a ufo hotline? they may say its to make the average citizen feel heard and safe about ufo’s and aliens, no i think their trying to collect intel. the best place to hide is out in the open. i couldnt care less wheather or not this movie was real but i do know that there are things out there beyond our explinations, our comprehension that do exist. maybe their all the same phenomenon we just dont know how to explain or describe them or it. i dont believe “god” exists or any god for that matter besides myself, myself being a levayan satanist. so i hear by challenge this “god” or aliens(s) to come and abduct me or this paranormal entity to come and show me that this exists. dont mistake me there is “SOMETHING” out there, but i dont know what it is or who or why its here. may be it just existes simply because it can or simply because it just does, just like everything tha existes and ever will,because lets face it can you prove 100% that the big bang happened or how everything came to exist? the theory of the big bang is that everything was just compressed until it epxploded, well what about before the big bang? and there is no such thing as nothing, it is not a substance, its really just nothing except a word. even space is made up of a substance because magnetic or radio waves or something rather can travel throught it. there a fancy name for it i just recall.and what about beyond space, at the edge whats out there? its been proven that space is not infinite so wats beyond that? it cannot be nothing because nothiing connot exist. why? because everything that is right now as i type and you read is trying to reach equal energy levels, maybe the explination or death and life. if everything is trying to reach equal energy levels there cannot be something that does not exist or that cannot absorb energy. we know that energy cannot be made or destroyed only collected and disipated, and there cannot be an infinite amount of energy. every thing can be counted past even munbers that we cannot immagine there so large. we are ecentially stardust or dust or a substance animated by energy because we have the unequce ability to absorb energy and manipulate it into our will and means to survive and dissipate it back into the world. all this could suggest that if we exist because we evolved from monkeys or whatever you wanna believe we evolved from, that something else beyong our comprehension could exist and is probably safe to say that it does. what about single celled organisms that we eventually evolved from, wered they come from? what did they evolve from? lots is out of our comprehension so i ask, why not? infinite and nothing are just simply words, just a tool to label things we don’t understand…..

Think about it, the FBI is up there so much and has no explaination for the reports or disappearances, you think the public will find out the truth, COVER UP big time, not surprised though

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this movie is fake from start to end, but if the aliens were Abduction us trust me we would know it.
because if there were some who had so much technologischen and then visited our planet, then it was because we had something they could use.
the aliens would not just come and take in secret, we would know it.
and the idea that we get Abduction by aliens is just ridiculous, makes no sense.
I agree with many here in the blog, but just do not understand those to believe in it.
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You sound like the sheriff from the film, you think the public hears about everything or the truth, man you must work the FBI or something blogging, the best defense that town or the government has is blocking from the public, don’t be so closed minded

I’d like to start out by saying this movie was very entertaining and convincing. I believe SOME footage was real (and disturbing)…like the ufo hovering over house and the “Tommy” family scene (though why did the snipers not take him out after he shot his wife and then turned toward his kids??)

anyways, the hovering part was a lil too much..seemed pretty ridiculous (shouldve removed the blanket, I say).
But the case where the entity says ” I am god…ruin or destroy them”, makes sense. Where exactly did our “god” come from? A book? “Jesus”?
There’s been information (on the history channel) claiming we were created by “aliens” in order to be watched/researched on how we civiliaze amongst each other. What if with our recent actions (war/famine) could be upsetting these beings? What if this claim is true? What if it was predicted thousands of years ago that in the year 2012 they would make their true appearance? We could already have our warning and we’re not even worried one bit. Scientists from hundreds of years ago claim in the year 2012, we will have two choices that we will have to decide on….”ruin/destroy” sound familiar?
And also…if we were created by other beings..wouldn’t the creator be upset that we are worshipping no one in particular? Therefore it was saying “I am the god you have been worshipping all these years”
what if Jesus happened to be a regular guy and was abducted and was being controlled by some entity? Or was just trying to explain this possible event..and the claim that he was floated/pulled/lifted into the sky? Hmmm…I wonder what that couldve been…maybe the aliens wanted their “human-form” leader back since we couldn’t take him seriously. Since then we have been fucked since we treated the evidence with such disrespect. We supposedly had to kill someone to get real facts! And still we are unsure.

I just watched this Film. Then my first reaction was OH MY GOD, is this Real. Then I set out to try and find out what others where saying about this Movie. The most wonderful thing, is to be able to express your views freely to others on the net. I have done alot of reading on other sites as well as this one. I really haven’t found the answer, I am looking for. First of all to Filmaker, I liked your point about why this movie was not just made into a documentary. If it was allowed on the air as a Documentary then that would mean that, you would have to get all the people involved to sign waivers and agree that they witnessed all these things and they were true. At the end, alot of witnesses didnt want anything to do with the movie, WHY? not because it didnt happen, they didn’t want to deal with the aftermath… whether it be hounded by the media, or our government. Lets face it, this show would have never even been aired if it was presented as totally true, and in Documentary form. This is why they say, you make up your own minds whether its true or not. They had to create this story in this fashion to get it on the air. If our Government was ready for us to know that People were indeed being beamed out of their beds at night, they would tell us, and until then, we are not going to ever know for sure. So, it is my thought on this subject, that everything was real. We were presented with the facts. Presented in a way not to tip the apple cart. Really if this was true would anyone be able to find the real name of anyone involved and if they did, would they say, yes this all happened and risk their futures? The only person, who is willing to tell her story is Abigal Taylor and shes not in her right mind now. But the footage is what is backing her story instead of all the people who bailed on her when it came time to tell her story. This is just my thoughts on the movie. The footage on the cameras where messed up because of a magnetic field created by what ever was there at those sessions. NBC did a mini series years ago called INTRUDERS based on a book by DR. John Mac. This story reminds me alot of the same occurances that he was investigating. This also was a true story. It also was not filmed as a documentary. Those those who are skeptical of The Fourth Kind, I suggest they read the book Intruders. Lets say for a moment that our Government knows that people are being abducted by aliens. What is it WE THINK they can do about it? Write them a letter and tell them to stop or else? OR ELSE WHAT? What is it we think we can do to stop a civilization that is so far advanced, that may have been living like we are living Now when the dinosaurs roamed the earth. Two hundred years ago we were riding horses, three billion years ago they were flying in space. A scary thought isn’t it? So really why would our Government want to install such hopelessness on us, by telling us yeah they really do exsist, there dangerous, and we let them do whatever they want, so not to anger them… cause theres nothing we can do and theres no way we can do to stop them. And really do we really want to know. I have seen my share of strange stuff, and I do believe they exist. Truthfully, if you look at all the pictures of UFOs how many different kinds and shapes, you’d think they had a ship dealership on what ever planet they came from or is thier differences because there are so many different nations coming from different places. How would we react if we knew what the real truth was? Better left unknown.

The movie is loaded with fake footage. One prime example is the “so called” real footage of the ship coming over the house as shot by the police car dash cam. I live in Alaska and I have been to Nome, there are zero trees of that size in Nome, Nome Alaska looks nothing like that.

k theres alot of people saying that the footage messing up is obviously there to cover up the “movie magic, strings,” or whatever but if you are an intelligent person you have to realize that alien space craft that travel distances as far as light years away from there planets to see us or our “progress,” would not be using rocket fuel but some other type of propulsion system that would power itself and creat a form of electro magnetism that could potentially act as an E.M.P (elecro magnetic pulse)and in fact distort or completely ruin an electric audio and visual recording device along with any other technology involved with electric current. nicola tesla was aware of the energies around us and i urge you too study him and spread his legacy which was IN FACT free energy

Just watched the movie.
It had me going at first.
The so called real footage seemed real.. for a little while…
Then… Because of my wonderful DVR
replayed the man killing his family footage.
Fake Fake Fake oh it is so fake…
Watch as he fires the gun…
no recoil! none what so ever, not even a smidget!
All the recoil was done by his hand/arm immitating the actual event.
I became immediately skeptic after that.
The rest of the footage is hog wash! Please!!!
Thought it was gonna be a good movie. It was overall but got ruined by fake footage…

So sad

well allknowing, you are some what right, but you should study more about signal transference, or in the movies case disruption. Now their are three types of signal transfers an emp(electromagnetic pulse), an emf(electromagnetic field), and a emw(electromagnetic wave). Now in the movie, it couldn’t be an emp, well because for one thing if you were an electronic, an emp would be deadly to you. To be honest a lot of people think that a pulse is continuous, its not, a pulse is considered to the minimum of 1 beat. It Also couldn’t be an emf, now even though all three types of transfers work in a field; theirs a difference between electrolytes bouncing in a field then it totally covering a field. It couldn’t be an emf because if it was all the electronics in the house would of been going crazy. The lights would of flickers, the clock radio, t.vs, computers, everything would of been going haywire. Now if you were thinking it was an emw; then you were right. Its called Line Of Sight. Its the same reason why you face your satellite to a satellite in space. It has to be an emw well because its straitforward. Its a way to send the transfer to the direct object.

Does it matter if it’s real or not? I was quite happy pretending that it was real just because I payed my money’s worth and wanted to enjoy the film. At the end of the day it is just a film and it’s up to people in themselves whether they want to believe it or not, I’m not saying theres a right or wrong or whether it’s real or fake, but unless you plan on using the footage or the film as research for something, my question is, it’s a film, that in my oppinion is rather well done, so does it really matter if it isn’t real??

I live in Northern Manitoba where the legal drinking age is 18. In January, our normal lowest temperature is -16 degrees Celsius [approx. 3.2 degrees Fahrenheit]. For the REAL Nome, Alaska (population 3500), the normal low temp. in January is -1.8 F [approx. -18 degrees Celsius]. My environment is very similar to Nome, except I am surrounded by coniferous trees….and my town has a population of 5,594 people.

I can only name 1 young man who died in my town from getting blacked out drunk and passing out in a snowbank. And his body was found.

Twenty-fucken-four missing people????? Not possible. Not logical. Not what it seems…

So I have thouroughly enjoyed reading over this forum…nearly as much as i enjoyed watching this movie. I bought it. I even hung the poster in my room. Truth is that believing in aliens gives us humans a perspective on reality as much as it gives us entertainment in fiction. They exist and as many of the more intellectual people of the forum have stated; its ignorant to think otherwise. That all aside check out the deleted scenes with the subtitles on. I would love to believe this movie is based on actual events and to some point i still do. The scence of the family shooting is completely fake and are actors. You will hear clearly “ACTION!” as the scene begins of the “actual video evidence”. It does matter whether its real or not because some of us do believe and hate when nay sayers have a reason to give forward thinking a step back. Investigating the internet does nobody any good and whats worse is nobody from Nome, Alaska has the internet apparantly because if that was my hometown in a movie i would be all over the f***in place answering as many questions as possible. Can someone besides their mayor or supposed FBI investigators of the town give the world a comment to count on

Ok, first off, i would believe that gorilla’s were made of little elves if a gorgeous actor such as Milla Jovovich told me so. And secondly, i believed it at first mainly because i’m “a dumb little teenager”. The whole switching between real and reanactment scenes was the one thing that got to me. I just wanna know if the “Abigail Tyler” Actor (the one who was in the interview with the chapmen student) got spammed the fuck out because the movie was a crock of shit. And if it wasn’t, god bless her persistence. I mean the fact that she was so friggin’ ugly (I thought she was the alien at first) also caught my “Balieve it, its gotta be realz!” factor of my brain. But on the other hand, the scenes could’ve easily been bull shitted. If you got any at all incentive on why or where the scenes show bullshit or why Movies can lie about being true by saying it 5 times at the beggining and end and finally who the “real” Abigail Tyler”s name is ( the fugly one) at: TeenagedWitness@sbcglobal.net

Its a lot easier to tell yourself its fake, im open minded to both sides. Nobody has disproven the events. The FBI covers things up all the time. Nobody will talk, confidential. The universe is huge beyond our imaginations, how could we be the only ones here, to me thats scary. Same with paranormal, a lot less scary if you watch and make excuses for why its fake the whole time. Im not saying it couldnt be staged, but im also not gonna say that it wouldnt be covered up and people are like idiots in how we believe what the Feds want us to believe.People are to much of Pu$$ies to accept the unknown as anything but what we can explain, or want to hear.

I’m not saying there’s no chance of alien life being out there, but I REALLY hope no one believes this film is anything more than a crock of shit. I stopped watching it, it was so bad. Just make a movie about alien abductions! Don’t try to shove it down my throat that it’s REAL when EVERYTHING they claim to be real is a complete fraud. I want my money back. I don’t like being lied to.

It would have been a lot better without the fake real film footage. It was distracting and pointless.

ok guys and girls.Seems to me a lot of you are spending a lot of time and energy into warning us about how evil aliens do or do not exist and about how FBI or governments do or do not cover-up stuff about aliens. But i’ll tell you what’s a lot scarier then the possibility of beeing abducted by a creature from another planet,it’s that a lot of shit IS happening on this earth, done by humans to other humans and who is nicely covered-up by a greedy bunch of humans whitout any kind of morals whatsoever and who are only interested in making money off of other humans and totally turning planet earth into a wasteland.

You know cancer is everywhere and is now mostly caused by man’s carelessness ( do any of you read books such as ² The world according to Monsanto ² and stuff like that ? It tells you exactly how the world’s stupidest ideas come to be in your dinner plate and make you sick ) All i’m saying is that you should be a lot more concerned about freaky things happening right here right NOW then about spending your time quoting the bible and calling others dumb-asses when it’s probably a lot more dumb-ass to not be aware and preoccupied about things that influence our everyday life like what’s in your food or how it is that companies can pollute a whole community and then be allowed to launch a slap-pursuit against anybody that tries to denounce them, etc…

Sorry this was a long post. Just to finish by saying it’s really important in life to be open-minded, but also to be very skeptical about everything and not only believe what you WANT to believe (for example not believing this movie is real just BECAUSE you like thinking that governments are covering up stuff all the time).I THINK ( I don’t write KNOW ) alien life exists and i THINK governments cover up stuff all the time but these BELIEFS of mine does not make this film any more real!!! Actually nothing AT ALL in this movie PROVES to me that the footages are real. Therefore i must remain skeptical and not BELIEVE this to be real, as i should do individually whit all reports of sightings or whatever.By the way i’m a francophone so sorry if my spelling isn’t perfect. Peace to all.

Was this a clever marketing Hollywood movie scheme? Perhaps..As an author of Secret Societies Exposed, Ufologist, Cult Investigator and former law enforcement, I conclude that this movie has profound merits as depicted with their representation of plausible events.

Like so, there is no doubt that the film challenges our imagination with the premise of science VS fiction. Nonetheless, we are always fascinated with such mysteries of the paranormal and the universe! Like so, the acting was superb!! I have performed multiple field investigations of such paranormal anomalies and found Parapsychological evidence to support such claims even thought there are many claims that are classified as hoax.

Im also a Senior Paranormal Investigator with the Florida Paranormal Research Foundation and there are plenty of cases that exist that are beyond scientific and logical comprehension! Interestingly, the real AKA Dr. Tyler never received sufficient assistance in her case and was dismiss by officials since this type of conspiracy theory can never be ascertained by officials, FBI or government. Thus, can you Imagine the social crisis and religious pandemonium that would develop if the government was to confirm that Aliens are real! Subsequently, the Church will also lose its multibillion dollar a year franchises. In conclusion, the truth is out there….seek and thou shall find. I would like to find the real A.K.A. Dr. Abigail Tyler and re-open this cold case file in order for her to receive closure on her misfortune events! She deserves that much!
Charles Del Campo
Cult Investigator.
Paranormalpsy@aol.com
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWlbmmla9k0&feature=player_embedded

this movie is not real about the guy shooting his family it is so convinent that it gets fuzzed out as most of the things in the film

I just want to put a note in here that I as well was searching to find out if the footage featured in the movie was real or not, however, after spending a lot of time reading over everyone’s posts, I found more name calling and harrassing responses to others than I did any actual answers. To those who posted about the MOVIE, thanks.

They should have had Mulder and Scully investigate. I bet they would have gotten to the bottom of it. 🙂

I have seen alien activity over Brecon Beacons in Wales (UK). This was in the early 1980’s.

We are not the only planet with life. Proof will be shown eventually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dc-GQgb6nk&feature=related

There is the “real” Abigail Tyler. She is an actress and her name is Charlotte Milchard.

People in Nome have never heard of any of this other than there being 24 unexplained disappearances. (Though each case seems to bring about “unofficial” conclusions such as serial killings and hate crimes). The claim is that this happened to Abigail Tyler in the year 2000. I have always watched the news and though I was just a high schooler then I know for a fact they would’ve shown the clip of the whole family getting shot on TV for a very long time. Just recently some lady got hit by a car and it was caught on camera and they ran that clip on multiple stations for days. That specific clip of the family shooting would have been on national television immediately and it never was. And it seems to exist only in this film. The biggest thing about the footage was the way the man shot his wife and then turned completely to shoot his child with armed officers all ready to shoot him as soon as the wife was out of the way. But none of them fired until the child dropped dead? Really? (And don’t say “oh they just covered it up” because they just made movie with the “footage” in it.)

And for the people who keep arguing that the FBI never disproved any of this. Well they also didn’t “disprove” that a giant sea crab is to blame, nor did they disprove it was Godzilla. That’s right, they didn’t “disprove” it because there is literally no evidence of alien abduction.

I don’t know where I stand on abduction. It could be real or it could be fake. But at the end of the day the movie producers straight up lied to the viewers in hopes to generate some cash flow. If any of that footage were real then the movie would have been alright. But it is all fake.

There is no information on a missing girl by the name of Ashley Tyler. The state of Alaska never recognized an “Abigail Tyler” with a license to practice. The only article from the local paper about these events was proven to be fake and never actually published (just available for people on the internet). They made up fake websites for Abigail Tyler.

So this movie is total bs. Does that mean something weird isn’t going on in Nome? No, not at all. But this movie was made up by writers completely. This would be like believing that Shrek is real.

reallypoople, I hate when people talk out of their ass, and from your comment; I’m pretty sure you do it every second of your life. Is it Charlotte Milchard, it could be, but the point is you don’t know. I don’t know, everybody on this page does not know. Remember your statement is an opinion not a fact. So stop acting like your God and you know how everything went down.

Reallypeople, I hate when people talk out of their ass, and from your comment; I’m pretty sure you do it every second of your life. Is it Charlotte Milchard, it could be, but the point is you don’t know. I don’t know, everybody on this page does not know. Remember your statement is an opinion not a fact. So stop acting like your God and you know exactly what went down.

Movie was quite real. it should have got OSCAR Award. sad it missed out 🙁

“Opinion is not fact” opinions lead to research which reveals facts. You tell is to stop acting like god, well who the hell do you think you are, you are immature to think we will take orders from you, so please have a word with yourself.

If you get the DVD watch the special features. They come out completely and tell everyone that the “Actual Footage” was all staged. There is nothing factual about this movie. It was just to get you into the movie for a more in depth experience. And look – it worked!!

For all of you who believed in this, don’t feel ashamed. It just means they did a good job entertaining you. Like I said – watch the special edition DVD. There was no actual footage. They made a movie to entertain you and drag you head first into their world for a full experience of their roller coaster ride. Give them props.

yea, your right. Its immature to ask some one to stop acting like their God. Ooh and you are talking about opinions come out to be facts off of research. How if the whole movie is still considered classified? You might think I’m immature, but I think your fucking dumb. So please have a word with yourself.

ooh shit, Ryan you got ripped man. LMAO.

luvits, maybe I did but hey, lifes rich pageant

adam, I notice you swear at me, have you any childhood issues?

Ryan, the fact that you did not curse at me when you tried to dis me does not make you any better. and remember you can act like God, but you will never be him.

Adam, I am not god, will never be god and don’t wish to be god, because that would mean I don’t exist.

Besides in my line of work studies must be carried out to see if statements are true.

Hello,

I just watched the film last night and what a great film to get you spooked! I honestly thought that it was real fotage but just found out that Dr is played by Charlotte Milchard. What!!! So all of the footage is not real! I know that it may be a real story but how do we not know that they are not telling the truth about that too!!!

Yes, Charles from post 181… Im with you. Great post. I bought the Movie on DVD and its states clearly on the back BASED ON ACCUAL EVENTS. Ok, I do beleive in alot of things. I have to believe also that even as bad as some people are in todays world, that the Movie Industry knows better than to tick people off about lying the events of their movie. Its clear by this forum that many people are upset about the realness of this movie. If you were a Director of a movie and lied about its contents, your viewers are not going to watch the movies you make because you have lost any kind of crediability with your viewers. Think for a moment everyone… yes its Hollywood… but I really doubt a Director is going to outwardly lie about the realness of his movie, IT WOULD RUIN HIM. Its kind of like the Singing DUO who got caught, for not even singing their songs. It ruined their reputation same thing applys here. Movies are this Directors job. Is he really going to blow it by lying to us… no I don’t think so. He probley thought he was making a profound movie, that would make us all wonder HAY could this really be happening. As far as trees in Nome Alaska, do we really think that they couldnt change the name of the town it accually happened in or for that matter Film It Somewhere Else? Either one of these is likely. Thousands of people especially children vanish every year and are never found. Who’s to say what town this really happened in. It could be any town USA.. but I do believe this is a facual presentation based on the Directors step out on a limb willingness to try and get this Woman’s story out into the Media without stepping on toes. I wish Charles the best of luck trying to find Dr. Tyler. And would like to hear any updates he may have on this subject.

Duh, of course its fake. None of the film was actually fimled in Nome. The video shows Nome as being a mountain covered area, while in real life it is flat barren country. So if it is admitted and obvious that they didnt film one frame of the film in Nome, how did they have “actual” police footage of where Tommy shots his family and the “film” all being at the same place?

Who really cares if its real or not? If it’s real, we’re screwed. If its fake, then well, at least we’re mentally ready for an attack or something. Come on people. Its a movie. Twas meant to be enjoyed 🙂

BUT did anyone get the feeling that the “aliens” were… well, not aliens, but something else?

Ok, Adam, I noticed you called someone out earlier on their grammar. (yes I read all these comments, entertainment at it’s finest) Please, let’s not be a hypocrite here, you use the word half instead of have. Don’t even get me started on there, their, and they’re.

I don’t mean to be rude, by the way. I apologize if my first paragraph there comes across that way, it just irked me. 🙂 I don’t claim to use perfect grammar, but to call someone out on it while unable to practice it yourself is pretty goofy, you must admit. I was able to read the persons post that you took a shot at just fine, by the way.

Ok, on to the movie. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Do I believe the footage to be true? No. Before I get torn apart by our fellow readers, I’m simply stating my opinion nothing more.

Do I believe in alien life? Well, I’m totally open to the idea, hell, this universe is unfathomably large. I would even go so far as to say that I would be more surprised if there ISN’T alien life out there, intelligent or otherwise. That being said, do I believe if there is alien life that visits Earth? I can’t say for sure. Possible? Sure it’s possible, I suppose. I won’t say yes or no, though, because in the end I don’t know for sure.

So, do I believe that people are being abducted by said aliens? Well again, I can’t say yes or no since I don’t know for sure. However, I do tend to lean more towards no.

All that aside, my first reaction to the interview between the director (I think he was the director anyway) and the Dr. was to laugh. She looked to me like a living version of the mask from the movie Scream, and to top it all off she was being interviewed by Shaquille O’neal.

okay,I’m not this grammar fixation junkie. Its just if you your going to write a post for people to read, write it where at least people could understand it. Otherwise you writing it for yourself. Anyways, your comment sounded pretty intellectual. You gave your opinion, and stayed open to the topic.

Im open minded i do believe there are other intelligent life out there-i mean think about it ALL the planets, ALL the stars out there and we are the ONLY living things here! No i dont think its possible that man is the only living Species in the entire universe!!! it seems highly unlikely!!

But i dont believe that if there is something out there that they would cause us harm, people who have apparently been abducted have been returned-otherwise where did the stories and reports come from??

I did see the movie and found it entertaining, the footage seems real more real than ‘Paranormal Activity’ my god what was with that film its was low budget, bad acting and if im honest i found it hilarious that people actually thought it was real!!!

like the film said believe what you want-but just because your OPINION is ‘ITS FAKE ITS FAKE ITS FAKE’ dosent mean its is it could be real!!! Open your minds a little.

Were the statements about the Sumerian artifacts true or false? Was that docotr/scientist real or his book actually published? While I can’t tell you whether or not abductions happen, I can testify that I have seen a UFO, along with 2 other eyewitnesses…

Just a few thoughts here. The MOVIE was, as far as movies go, in MY opinion, extremely well done. By creating an aura of “authenticity” via the docu-drama method, it created the subtle subconscious feeling, just enough of it to wonder, “Hmmm, could this actually be real footage?” I almost jumped outta my skin during the last scence when “Dr. Tyler” levitates, her jaw dislocates and the look in her eyes…man! I have to say, IMHO, that was one of the scariest and creepiest things I’ve EVER seen…

Was the “real footage” TRULY real? Yes, in that it was really shot with a camera and people. Was it ACTUAL footage of the ACTUAL events? Nope! There is NO DOUBT that Charlotte Milchard is the actress playing Dr. Tyler…just go to her webs-site and clck on her “faceshots”….it’s DEFINITELY her. Film her in black and white and add lots of greyish makeup and lighting to make her appear even more gaunt and “ghostly” looking herself, and voila!

The DEPUTY SHERIFF who called in the abuduction of Dr. Tyler’s girl?
Like someone else who posted, WHY would the Sheriff have come to Dr. Tyler’s house in the first place? WHY would he not question his own deputy who supposedly claims he saw people being FLOWN out of the house by some ship???? WHY would the Sherrif automatically assume Dr. Tyler did something to her own daughter INSIDE the house, when it was the call (supposedly) of his *own deputy* claiming he saw something occuring OUTSIDE the home? …in the REAL world of police-work, such glaring inconsistencies and incompetence on the part of a Sherrif investigating such a dissapearance would be problematic indeed!

Abduction? WHY does “Dr. Tyler” see the nail scratches on the floor (supposedly), after her collossal struggle with the entity bodily taking her out the door, when they can supposedly beam her daughter right out the window? WHY does the alien encounter only surface during hypnotic regression therapy? And finally, (this is for you perhaps sincere, but incredibly naieve “believers” in this sort of thing), WHY, WHY, WHY would hypnotic-regression bring out not merely the MEMORY of the supposed event, but the actual supposedly levitation, gross twisting of the body and extreme distortion of the mouth, jaw and face? Meaning, did the “aliens” leave some sort of chip in the brain of those abducted that automatically triggered not merely a memory (when regressed), but also SUPERNATURAL occurances too?

ABDUCTION OR POSSESSION?
Did anyone else come to the strong conclusion that these were depictions of people being POSSESSED in the common sense of the term by a non-human, (demonic) entity? I mean, c’mon, the quote of the entity claiming to be I AM and GOD?

Did the movie succeed in engendering emotion and controversy? Absolutely! …almost as good as much of the “dialogue” herein 🙂

This is in response to Austins post. (#204)

I personally haven’t looked up Sumerian hieroglyphs, however the concept of ancient Sumerian texts containing images which appear to depict aliens or spacecraft is something that I have heard of. Whether or not these hieroglyphs really are trying to depict these ideas is not for me to say, however, since I have no schooling in the matter and, to be honest, have never felt the desire to attempt to research the subject on my own since it doesn’t interest me.

The only reason I’ve heard of these ideas is because of an article I read on the website called Universetoday.com. There are a series of articles there debunking the whole 2012 craze that’s going on right now. In particular the idea that an undiscovered planet with a highly irregular orbit is on a collision course with Earth. The whole idea to me is absurd, but the believers claim that ancient Sumerian texts help to “prove” the theory. Someone actually posted about it here in this forum though I can’t remember which post it was. (and I’m too lazy to try and find it :p ) You can read about it here, http://www.universetoday.com/guide-to-space/aliens/annunaki/ That’s just one of several articles on that site regarding the topic.

I believe that site also has links to other sites that go into further detail about Zecharia Sitchin, the man who apparently came up with the claim about this supposed collision and the ancient Sumerians contact with the aliens that inhabit that planet. (to me this movie implies that this is the same alien race which is conducting the abductions, since these ancient texts are mentioned) There I believe you can actually see some of these ancient Sumerian tablets and maybe draw your own conclusion. I’m feeling pretty lazy right now, hehe, but later if I come across them I’ll link them here for you if you like. 🙂

As for the doctor in the movie being real, I’m not sure.

Ok Anya,
My dear you are quite stupid. I just checked the lamps. At first I thought “hey this chick may actually have a point” but no. They are all 100% different lamps. I looked. You are the one who needs to watch the film again. Try and do your research before you make yourself sound like an A**.

the actress who played Abigail tyler is charlotte milchard from the UK. if you just type her name with no space and put .com at the end you’ll see i already tried to post once but didn’t go through

hah…what if your clock was slow by 2 mins? or something like that…does that still apply?

hey… guys… if this flim is not real …. so .. where is Ashely????

who has taken her??? ny idea…….

Hey, I am just curious. I have been looking around and I saw a comment on here about the actress who played Dr. Tyler playing in other movies. I am curious why isn’t she given any credit at all? In every other mockumentary the actors and actresses are listed. For example in the mockumentary “Who is Kaspar Carr” if you do a search on google you quickly find the name of the actor/director who played Kaspar. So I am just curious who she is. I don’t care either way if the movie is fake or real. I am just curious because someone on here said they had seen her in other films so I would like to know which film(s). Also, I noticed that no where on the internet have they definitely shown that the “Archive” footage is real or fake. I see posts about the people of Nome denying the authenticity, however, no evidence has been shown either way. Would like to see this issue put to bed is all.

WHOM EVER BELIVES WE ARE THE ONLY CREATION IN THIS UNIVERSE IS A POMPUS _ _ _.I’ve seen alot of things in the sky. and any _ _ _ who was not there if he were to try and tell me it was swamp gas or whatever… Well lets just say I’m not a sheep and I’m not that simple minded.

OK,I DON’T WANT TO JUMP TO ANY CONCLUSIONS..BUT, LETS JUST SAY THE ACTUAL FOOTAGE IS REAL,AN ALL THE STUFF WE ARE HEARING THROUGHOUT THE FILM IS AUTHENTIC….THEN THIS WOULD PROVE PEOPLE AREN’T READY FOR THE TRUTH,THIS WOULD PROVE SOME PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO FACE THE REALITY THAT A HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED GROUP OF NON-HUMAN ENTITIES, ARE COMING INTO PEOPLES HOMES,AN DOING WHATEVER TO THEM,WITHOUT BEING STOPPED BY AN FORM OF GOVERNMENT.WHO KNOWS,IF THE FOOTAGE IS REAL,THE GOVERNMENT PROBABLY TOLD HER,THEY WOULD MAKE HER DISAPPEAR(LEGAL DOCUMENTS AND IDENTITY) IF SHE WENT FORWARD WITH HER FOOTAGE,IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE HER LOOK FRAUD..THIS IS WHAT THEY THREATEN TO DO TO MILITARY MEN,AND ANYONE WHO GOES AGAINST THEM..SO WHEN YOU GUYS SAY YOU CAN’T FIND ANYTHING ON DR. TYLER,IT COULD BE THE GOVERNMENT WIPED OUT EVERYTHING ON HER..I SAY,WATCH THE FILM WITH AN OPEN MIND

I think the point of the movie is being missed. I now every one talks about the alien part. The true “facts” may be soley that there was a psychologist in Alaska, that witnessed her husband shoot himself and since then has been on a mental “break”. A nervous breakdownsrom which she has never recovered from. This could all have been very real to the “true” Abigail Tyler, not the “real” one dipicted. The eye sees things and the brain interprets them in the ways which are most likely accepted. I think the director did a wonderful job of giving your eye things to see, now it’s up to your own brain to determine what it was. I can say that I am not big on many movies. However, I have watched this one 3 times already and have went as far as to google things re:it, which led me here. I will continue my search for what facts are out there, hopefully using more than just google in the future, lol. Bottom line is that the movie has (and please pardon the language)”MIND FUCKED” every one… that is why we are all here discussing it. In my opinion, it was a movie that was well done and kept every one guessing. Oh, and I thought the drama on this thread was just too funny!

ok look the fourth kind was just a great fucking movie. if its real cool, if its bull shit then ok shit happenes all in all it was a great movie if it is fake dont ruin the creepy feeling when u watch it it was a movie that obviusly cant get enough people ruining saying its all fake or all real so the fuck what watch the fuckin film cause there really running out a good ideas and some of you need to stop crying like little girls about this shit

yeah i think that all that stuff is fake.if people want to make better scary movies or “non-fiction” movies go right ahead but u should at least try and make them better or at least believable or people will stop watching them and horror movies will be forgotten…..

well i personally think this movie is fake. it hollywood people and they r going to do all sorts of things to get people to keep talking about movie for months.and i think that whenever people see something that has “actual video” or “actual audio” they r like ITS SOO REAL but seriously people. aliens? nah. i agree with that one person that said” aliens would probably be in bacteria for” and that our type (human) is to complex for another planet to have. you need water, a stable food supple, and mean/veggies. so go on ahead and believe that all this stuff is real but im just saying…… think and think and think before you ReALLY make up your mind. 🙂

How i would put it would be…. “You have to be so self centered to think that your the only one in the universe”
There are other beings out there, we are not alone. The quicker people open their eyes and see this, the better.
The movie was sooo scary, i do believe it was real. The part where the guy levitated was fucking freaky!!
Oh, and Area 51 has thoes green people. God i hate the Government. Stop the income tax!

alright ive read most of everyones posts and there are very good points from each side.. whether the movie is real or fake people who do not belive in ufo’s or e.t’s are very blind… its pretty much right in front of us u just need to look at everything with an open mind.im sure everyone has heard of area 51 and if u havent u can look it up. they r def hiding info from the world about aliens or ufos n have been experimenting for new air craft (if u havent noticed how advanced everything has gotten..). we still havent proved how the pyramids that were first built back in the day were made and how they were perfecty aligned to the north pole.. there r theories that aliens built them to start us up somehow… also there r said to be shapeshifters such as reptilians and george bush is said to be one of them and if u dont understand what i am saying please google it there is alot of info and proof on websites especially youtube therefore that means aliens could b around us but in human form.. people have seen ufos all over the world of differnt shapes and colours even very bright colours like orange.. also on the american dollar bill there is an owl on it but its very small im not sure if that has to do with anything im just pointing things out…if u dont belive in aliens im sorry but u need to realize we r living on a planet with many other planets around us and its very likely that there are differnet species out there

This movie is absolutely ridiculous…. It so conveniently makes it so every footage where there may be aliens involved is suddenly staticy and blurred out. Now yes some of you may say “well it was all part of the aliens bigger plan so theyre not discovered!!”. Well then tell me this,if they’re so worried about being discovered why talk through humans. You see the acting of the supposed real “Abigail Tyler” and all i see is forced acting to make it seem real. You see the supposed “real” scenes and then see its extremely exaggerated in the film style. Here’s an example, go to the seen where one of the patients is lying down at her office on the couch ( i can’t remember his name) he then goes into a shaking shock and starts yelling about in the film version, and in the real version we see he’s lying there quite calmly not shaking or yelling at all. Do you know what this is? This is genius film making. As much as i hate this movie for what it’s trying to do to people, it is genius because they really do have tonnes of people fooled. So let me lay out my opinion for you. You can believe that alien abductions exist, and they so conviently completely reduce your memory of the nights to an owl, and when episodes happen the supposed real life camera blurrs out, the aliens use a language only known by a handful of people on the planet, and the interviewer so conviently agress with Abigail that she has “hard facts”. I can’t fucking wait till we come out with a “Fifth Kind” where that stage is we shake hands with the fucking aliens and they enslave us. Oh yeah and to comment on the “11 million people UFO sightings”…. let’s just put it this way, people voted Adolf Hitler into power for a majority and thought it was a good idea. Oh yeah and i love at the end all the testimonies of all the redneck sounding people sayin “ohhh i seen that crop circle and i’d like to report it. This movie pisses me off.

well my friends,about the alien thing,we believe that we need water an veggies,to sustain life,cause its essential on our planet,but to be honest,we dont know what mysteries hide within the cosmos.earth scientist tell us these so called facts.but we really dont know what it takes to sustain life elsewhere.each planet can be different.why would nasa tell you theres aliens out here,our governemnt bareley gives us information on potiential targets for terrorism strikes,they hide behind the phrase “NATIONAL SECURITY” an you need a damn clearence to know where certain technology comes from.so if the annunaki,or etherians or greys exist,an they know it.they wont tell us shit

oreoisawesome21@yahoo.com, I think that you should think and think b4 you write. Your talking about we cant sustain life on other planets because other planets does not consist of elements. News flash, Their are planets with water, vegetation, and a high viscous atmosphere. Almost all planets have water, rather if its frozen or not. As far as natural gases, theirs methane on a lot of planets. Methane creates vegetation.

real are fake this movie was ace,im a firm believer in all that surounds ufos an et’s,i get really fooked off wi blind people who cannot see whats put in there faces,my view on the movie is its real an i think the fbi talk out there arses, the usa’s goverment chat sum real shite an will try hiding anything what they ant got the foggiest idea about an they never hide it well! i just hope the solid evidence is unearthed bfore my time is up because there is a lot off people i am going to say i told u so,…yes mi spelling an grammer r shite tell sumone who gives a shit…

At the start of the film, they do announce this is a dramatisation – a conversion into dramatic form – so they exaggerated the events, who really knows the truth behind anything with so many conspiracy theories going round the net.

if you don’t believe in Aliens coming here from another Planet you should read the book ” The 12th. Planet” by Zeckeria Sitchin.

Ok here’s my 2 cents for the alien abduction theories. If the earth is around 4.5 billion years old and the human race is between 6,000 and 25,000 years old(according to science,archaeology and biblical facts). My reasoning is this,….after thousands of years, if aliens existed, wouldn’t they have something better to do? I mean really, would you continuously check the same book out of the library, or rent the same movie over and over.

@thirty punches in 3 seconds….ZACHARIA SITCHIN IS THE MAN’ I READ ALOT OF HIS STUFF’THATS ONE DEEP BROTHER’

Strange, you half to understand that not only the human mind, but the human body is to complex. There’s always evolution, and even though our structure has not changed, our minds have gotten far more advanced. So beside that are brains have more activity; in result our bodies are most likely more broad. Just because we have the knowledge on how to eat better, consume the right vitamins, as well as change to today’s modern medicine. The one thing that you need to know is if you want to learn about a species, then you half to know more about an individual.

Right so i have just read most of these, i think the ciao or what ever your name is is really childish and a bit pathetic, seriosuly saying this danielle has a crush, over a forum like this? and critisise everything the girl says!? dam, when did people get so argumentative and harsh over things like this? please go away its people like you who make the world an annoying and hard place so dont return please.
(And danielle really do not listen to her)

And as for anya is it? You really need to grow up, your more annoying than this other fool, seriosly i dont usually abuse people or chat back on things like this, but after reading this i felt the need too as it was so pathetic what you both said. I totally agree with the guy about evidence to back what you said up, yeah your entiled to your opinion totally i agree with that, but when you become childish and saying all that stuff to other people with there opinions and having ago at them for it is not good, your entilted to yours, so why cant they be entitled to theres right? works both ways. And if your so insiting on your acusations about the dam lamp and “fake” dr abigail tyler then proove it? Idiot.

Back to the film, i actually give top ratings to it, i watched it today and i was hooked on it, really good film wheather its real or not i dont care lol. Ive been looking into it researching it all and have not found any solid evidence about it all. If it is true daym thats some scary stuff, if not then the genius who thought of it thumbs up to him/her its a very good film 🙂

If it happened or not, I don’t know, but it didn’t happen in Nome and that wasn’t actual footage. Hell, in the deleted scenes they show one of these supposed “actual footage” tapes and the director says “Action”.

I honestly think everybody should stop arguing about it because the people said themselves, it’s up to you. In your head is what you’ll think and unless the movie directors and all creators of the film wanted to put out that the movie’s fake, there’s no reason to believe it’s fake or real. Even then it’s not JUST the movie that should have gotten anybody thinking about it because there’s been more than that case about aliens just nobody’s made contact that’s memorable or proven with aliens, UFO’s, or anything suspitious like that. None of you have been there or done that so shut the fuck up about talking about it being fake, because you have NO clue. You’re just ignorant people.

THIS MOVIE IS A CROCK OF CRACK- THE MAKEUP ON THE REAL CHICK FROM THE SUPPOSED REAL FOOTAGE IS SO THICK AND NASTY… YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME- SHE LOOKS LIKE AN ALIEN HER SELF. CONVENIENT HOW THE FOOTAGE ALWAYS GOES BLURRY A HALF SECOND AFTER YOU START TO SEE SOMETHING INTERESTING… WOW I FEEL BAD FOR ANYONE THAT IS NIEVE ENOUGH TO FALL FOR THIS CRAP. ITS DEGRADING TO MOVIES THAT ACTUALLY ARE BASED ON REAL FOOTAGE.

I liked this movie lots and the real Abigail Tyler looked like she had been in some other movies. And when the real Tyler was screaming Milla seemed mored convincing then Real Tyler did. At the beginning of the movie they said some of the names were changed to cover up identities so maybe Dr. Abigail Tyler isn’t her real name? It could explain alot of it. Well I say it’s a faker with bits of real stuff like the owl stuff could be real and maybe the tapes but I doubt there is much truth to this. Well thats MY opinion which isn’t a lot so yeah.

The name of the actress that played the “real dr. Abigail Tyler” is Charlotte Milchard and u ppl can go and search it on imdb…All documentaries are not real although the movie was great:D…It s pure fiction

Okay you guys might want to start another search for the actress who played Abigail Tyler, because it’s quite apparent that it’s not that Charlotte chick from the UK. Her chin is longer, and you can hear her voice overs on her site, that someone linked. Her voice is quite different. She looks very similar, I’ll give you that, but not quite.

okay, in imdb it does not even give her credit for the movie, so you cant officially say its her. She has her own fan website @ http://www.charlottemilchard.com/ if you are so determined to find out its her; then why don’t you send her a email asking if it was her. Just because a whole lot of people think its her doesn’t mean its really her.

okay im not going to lie i believed it when i first saw it, until i looked at this website, and i was shoked because i belived it so much, because if the universe goes on and on, i have no doubt in my mind that they have other civilazations out there, somewhere. but that doesnt nessasarily mean that they could reach here, but it doesnt mean they cant also. I have to say they did good with the make up in the girl she looked like she had been through hell. The actual videos looked real to me, but im only 12, and i like to be scared so… But i can say that i believe in aliens, just dont know if i believe they can reach here.

Prediction? I believe Universal will wait till this hype blows over and then finally admit it’s all fake. It had me convinced in the beginning before figuring out the Dr. Tyler was portrayed by an actress. Interesting because I don’t have that good of an eye. I was naive up until research myself. That really pisses me off. I’m a firm believer in aliens and it sucks cuz in this country you just never know. Farenheight 9/11 for example. Or that one other alien movie (forgot the name) where the guy was hypnotized and all that crap. All fake. I’m sick of all this fake. All it took was some brilliant prick to say “hey let’s say there’s real footage when we stage that as well”. Pathetic.

Besides…would our government really let it get this far if it was real? This may be a free country but I truely believe Big Brother would assassinate every SOB who attempted to get it out if it was real. Think about it. Haters may hate me now that I’ve said this but it’s true. I guess you can call it my “conspiracy of a conspiracy”.

Yes, I agree with you, because I said the same thing to myself when I went to youtube and watched making of the monster in mindflesh. Just because everyone was talking saying its her, I had to see her in another video for comparison. Not only she looks different in the video, but I believe their is no way that women could disguise her voice to sound like Dr Abigail Tyler.

Who cares if it was real? Paranormal Activity wasn’t real and the masses seemed to love it. While I thought it was a terrible movie, worse than The Blair Witch or Cloverfield, I didn’t get all uptight knowing it wasn’t real. I thought it was well done. So I’m sure in many readers eyes, that makes me pathetic and stupid. Leaving things to the imagination, as they did in the ‘fuzzed out’ scenes, is a good thing. Films should do that more often like they used to in the old days. I think many film watchers have gotten so used to everything being shown to them, they lost their imagination. Besides, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that the filmmakers here were basically saying, “because of alien presence, the ‘real’ footage & audio is distorted”. Thats old school scifi & paranormal stuff there that many here and elsewhere on the web seem to have forgotten or not smart enough to know. Other films have used the “don’t show everything” method and got good results… like Signs and The Blair Witch. I think The Fourth Kind just has gotten bad rep because ppl for whatever reason feel betrayed by the fact that the filmmakers said “it’s based on a true story”. GET OVER IT. Watch it for what it is… entertainment.

@Cam Gefferson,

You are entitled to your opinion. But don’t say things like “all the redneck sounding people sayin…” just because YOU believe people with country accents are stupid. Just because somebody has a different accent than you, doesn’t make them stupid. Maybe your parents are not raising you well.

See i believe that this movie is real. I also believe somewhat in it being government controlled. They purposely put the real evidence in your face that way you think its fake, you watch some stupid alien encounter movie or video that they say is true and you call it stupid, but thats what they want.

ANYA—-MAYBE YOU SHOULD LEARN HOW TO SPELL BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE ELSE ON HERE DUMB!!! SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE NOT VERY SMART YOURSELF! YOU ARE PROBABLY A 10 YEAR OLD LITTLE GIRL WHO IS FAILING IN ENGLISH CLASS!

To everyone else…the movie did NOT use real names of the people this happened to so of-course when you google these fake names you are not going to find the people. I truly believe the events are real but unlike most of you I payed attention to the part where they say at the beginning that they are not using the real names of the people.

All this dispute over obviously fake footage. I was shaken a bit by the ‘actual footage’ and so after I watched the movie, I watched the deleted scenes from the movie.

You can clearly see them taping the ‘actual footage’ and hear the director yell ‘cut’ after the supposed actual footage of Tommy shooting his family and himself.

Mystery solved.

Wow, I don’t know why, but a lot of people hate this anya girl.

Like most, if not all of you, I started *googling* after I saw the movie (which was just last nite). Quite frankly the movie scared the hell out of me and so I wanted to find evidence that it was in fact fictional..I want to find proof that the so-called actual footage was fake…so that I can get a good nite’s sleep tonite! LMAO What has happened instead is that I’ve spent much more time reading all these posts than I did watching the movie. (Particularly given that whenever the *real footage* came up I had my thumbs over my ears and my fingers half covering my eyes – yes, yes I am that afraid of crazy ass freak stuff that just *might* be true).

Couple of the posts most on point for me were Jess, John and Koneal. Whom Koneal brought up what I was thinking too. As much as the brunt of this movie was about the patient recordings and the abductions and the Dr.’s tie to the events…the very beginning and then the very ended were based on her experience of the death of her husband and her inability to cope with the *reality* of that situation. I’m not saying this jaded her in anyway…I’m just saying if they wanted to leave me with a very clear cut feeling of whether I believe this all actually happened, I don’t understand why they would end it with us finally knowing that she was completely deluded to grief to the extreme of creating an entire delusion about her husband’s death. That little nagging set up in me. Then of course the fact that NOONE was willing to step up to the plate and have a set of brass one’s to substantiate her story confused me. I mean for pete’s sake…her own secretary supposedly is the 1st to hear her tape dictation that recorded her own abduction…why didn’t this secretary back her up. My point being…all the other characters in the movie…her shrink friend, the Sumerian expert, her secretary, the wife of Scott (the one who’s back supposedly broke during hypnosis, the sheriff’s deputy…were none of these people willing to go on tape with her to validate what she was saying? And as someone else pointed out – they say the majority of the video-taped sessions were wiped out by the aliens; but the audio in ancient sumerian with a creepy-ass voice is left alone?

Sorry guys I swore I wouldn’t go into detail and I just did and could continue more. I have NEVER written on or even followed a thread like this. So in summary (whew) I don’t believe the *actual footage* is genuine. I believe it was created for dramatization. Could it be based on the actual accounts of a real person…possibly. Do I believe that the women who is being depicted as Dr. Abigail Tyler is in fact Dr. Abigail Tyler? No…I believe it may be the actress people are referring to as Charlotte Milchard and that she was well paid for her contribution and silence to help bolster the *reality* of the film. Do I believe there really is a Dr. Abigail Tyer…possibly but more likely a different name. Do I believe any of the *actual footage* to be actual…some of it may be, altho edited, but I believe that all of the Dr. Tyler footage is dramatic license.

Believing, therefore, that the movie is basically not based on actual footage as we think of it, does not diminish that it was a pretty creepy movie and certainly got my attention. It seems a lot of folks here want to believe it is actual footage. For me it is the contrary, I came looking for proof that it is not real. I don’t want to think about malevolent aliens or demonic or self-professed God-like entities invading my body or anyone else’s for that matter. I do believe that it is unlikely that we are the only intelligent life in the universe. I prefer however to think of the worst possible alien as an annoying Pharengee rather than an assimilating species devourer like the Borg (yes pathetic Star Trek references, but I’m not a geek I’m actually the bass guitarist and lead singer in a regional rock band. I watch scary things for entertainment not reality. So I got my $$ worth with the Fourth Kind – it scared me, it was definitely thought provoking enough for me to spend 3 hours on here! But I’m too frightened to watch it again even tho it’s on my Tivo and I really hope that there is no basis in fact for the film…but everything usually is based on something…so much of the story may be true, to someone, but I don’t believe the actual people or videos were shown here.

Thanks

(oh yeah, sorry Anya…but yeah you really are a little twit; that’s all I really meant to write. lmao don’t take offense hon…I was a twit when I was a younger woman too and I can be a total freaking idiot now that I’m an older one…so write all you want at least you’re using your mind for something)

Truly… to the people saying is real… Have you all lost your brains? or did you borned without it?

I DO believe theres HAS to be some kind of intelligence out there.. lower and higher than ours.. BUT THIS MOVIE IS FAKE.. GUYS !! IS HOLLYWOOD !! WTF !! when and if we get to see something that is real.. we will watch it on a serious base line not in a F’ HOLLYWOOD MOVIE, specially if it comes from a serious doctor.. DOES that sounds logic enough?

And if this wasnt enough by itself… why have you overread the fact that Dr. Abigail Tyler DOES NOT EXIST… SHE IS AN ACTRESS… named Chalotte Milchard or something like that… google her… is not a she looks like her kind of thing… you cannot argue it.. IT IS HER.. and actually she broke silence about it (as far as i know theres a file for this, havent searched it trough, doesnt worth it once you know SHE IS AN ACTRESS)

PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL OWL LOVERS.

really, if that dude had shot his family like that…

a)the survivng members of at least the wifes family would proboably not allow them to use a video of their daughters head being blown off right before their grandkids

b) anything involving that guy would fall under doctor patient confidentiality and himself being dead would not be able to sign any sort of release letting any such doctor display it in a movie

chew on those ones..

Ivan, do you know why the world does not like people like you? Seriously, people like you swear everything you say is absolutely true. Just like the other idiots on this page that I had to correct; the topic is Real Or Fake, the reason being because none of us knows the truth. So if you believe it or not, your whole comment is just an opinion.

I couldn’t read all the comments to see whether people finally realized all the footage in the movie was fake or not.

So here is the link to a news website:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BU5KV81&show_article=1

which is referenced in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourth_Kind#cite_note-4

Hope this helps.

i like it when the hipnotized guy is trying really hard to kick the table down, probably the 51th take

i think all of you guys have issues trying to convince each other of alien topics on the internet and getting upset over it lol.

to whoever replied to these,

“The ‘real’ Abigail Tyler is an actress. I’ve definitely seen her in movies before. AND she wasn’t even convincing in trying to be the real doctor.” – Anya

Oh really? You’re so sure that you’ve seen this woman before yet you can’t come up with any names of characters, movies, anything? Guys… seriously.

the actresses name is CHARLOTTE MILCHARD! you can youtube it.. or google it.. and the film makers couldnt even get there facts right? Nome isnt surrounded by hills.. its almost completely flat and there are hardly and trees? maybe they could of tryed a little harder?

you guys all need to shut your mouth and let everyone think its real, because, you all are bumming me out and bursting my bubble. I want it to be scary and I’m not scared of fake.

no one wants to watch a movie and enjoy it if they know its fake.
I, myself think its real. But also had something to do with Demon activity.

http://www.charlottemilchard.com/

^ Doesnt she look familliar?
Hmmmm…
Dr Tyler maybe?
This film is quite fake.
Considering it illegal to show murder or anything related to that to anyone of the public. And also the people missing in Nome? Yes people went missing, alcohol related deaths, its cold its icy people fall through ice. Thats what happens, yes the FBI did investigate but it wasnt anything alien related.
Yeah i do believe that there is SOMETHING out there, but this film is definatly fake.
On the other hand it is a strange film but i did enjoy it.

Ok, so if you can get past the drama and bickering of these posts, they can actually be quite informative if followed up by more research. I’m pretty sure that anyone who spent the time researching whether or not this film is fact or fiction can and will agree with me when I say it is fiction. I am not saying that I don’t believe in other life out there, I am simply saying that the movie “The Fourth Kind” is a complete work of fiction with three intentions: 1. to make money. 2. to entertain. 3. to get you to think outside the box. For example: my mother doesn’t believe in aliens because she is a devout christian, but she also doesn’t believe in evolution and thinks the world is only a little more than 2,000 years old. Now, I will be completely honest with all of you in saying that this movie made me just about pee my pants and my boyfriend had to hold me all night because I was having nightmares. I was actually completely prepared to find evidence that this was all true shit, but of course there are a few things that just wouldn’t make sense (like the lack of real witnesses, despite there being plenty in the dramatization, the religious connections and seemingly demonic-like possessions, the lack of stories in the news about this all happening, et cetera.)even with all the evidence against it there are some eery connections that point that something similar could have happened and that is the dissapearances (let’s face it, the FBI covers shit up all the time and 300 visits is freaking rediculous just for some drunks to have wandered off into the woods.), also the many people who have similar abduction theories (though the white owl is seen after they have boarded the craft, not before, so they screwed up the order.), and there are the other countries of course that don’t constantly cover their shit up (anyone else feel like the U.S. is becoming another freaking north korea?), so sure it’s up in the air as far as how much of this is fact and how much is fiction; but as far as the argument goes that they filmed it all (included the ‘archive footage’) I believe mythbusters would call it busted.

Thats a good statement.
If im being honest i thought it was quite real when i first watched it. I was terrified because i really believe in UFOs, aiens, abductions etc and i was crying to my boyfriend cause i didnt want to sleep, i was so scared.
But i researched more into it and also my boyfriend didnt think it was real and he looked some stuff upso i found out it wasnt real. But it was still a good film i thought.

@Scott
You need to get a life.

Anyways.
All of this is based on opinion, and no one is going to always agree on it. But I think it’s fake. To much evidence on THAT part.

In many ways–>Is it hard to believe that we only exist in our small solar system? In my opinion I think we all should be open to possiblities of unknown visitors. Many UFO sighters have happened. Why is it so hard to believe they have physical contact with human beings?
Maybe there are just to many sci-fi movies that fill our heads with non-sense.
I for one believe it, but I wouldn’t want to encounter one. Looks & sounds very scary.

Hi guys,

After reading a shiteload of comments that, once one third down the page, seemed too poorly thought out and distinctly vague to give merit, I am going to do my best to give a neutral yet insightful view regarding the authenticity of the film’s fake footage.

Take a look at this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourth_Kind#Marketing_campaign

That’s the official Wiki page for The Fourth Kind, and if you read under Marketing Campaign, it clearly states:
“On September 2, 2009, an investigation by Noori Wright and the Anchorage Daily News examined the validity of the film’s premise, and its relation to actual disappearances that have occurred in and around the town of Nome. The investigation found no specific events to back up the claims in the film and also revealed that unsolved deaths in Nome are no more a majority of disappearances (just as in other remote areas).
On November 12, 2009 Universal Pictures agreed to a $20,000 settlement with the Alaska Press Club “to settle complaints about fake news archives used to promote the movie.” Universal acknowledged that they created fake online news articles and obituaries to make it appear that the movie had a basis in real events.
On November 13, 2009 WorstPreviews.com reported “Universal Pictures has just reached out to us to let us know that the studio was not sued and the money was just a contribution Universal made to the Alaska Press Club. The contribution was not a result of any lawsuit.

The actress who plays Dr. Abigail Tyler in the “archive footage” is supposedly Charlotte Milchard (her name appears in the DVD and Blu-ray credits of The Fourth Kind as a Nome resident while the name of the Doctor Abigail is missing on the list); however, this has yet to be confirmed by any credible source. Charlotte Milchard can be found on IMDB.com and the photograph matches the woman purported to be Dr. Abigail Tyler in the movie. There is also a website based on her name containing a biography for Charlotte Milchard and various acting credits and references.”

So there you have it. I’ll even quote the movie itself, ‘what you believe is up to you’, but with that surmountable evidence, I wouldn’t think that there’s any possibility that it’s true.

The one thing is that how could they put up a disclaimer saying it’s real when it’s not? My only answer is that because Universal have MONEY. Remember, without trying to risk breaking the law, Blair Witch and Paranormal tried to create a completely believable situation, using the actors’ name as their character name, etc etc. Blair Witch even made a website proving it’s authenticity! But on a tiny budget ($15,000 for Paranormal filmed in the director’s house) they obviously didn’t have the resources to risk putting out a disclaimer like that, whereas I believe TFK did.

I know I don’t have any concrete evidence besides the ones stated above, but from the start I could not believe it due to the video quality etc, and with that evidence it makes it even more unbelievable.

I think the point of the movie is not whether or not the “Actual footage” is real or not, But perhaps the way the sheriff reacteD to the UnaCcepTable sItuatiON that he waS fAcing, something so uncompRehendablE that his subconscience caused him to be in denial of the Reality hE faced. Maybe the movie wAs trying to say that this is why there are so many nay-sayers when it comes to the possibiLity of alien existence and the possibility that so many people could be subjects of alien abduction and don’t even know that its in the realm of possibility.

Just my 2 cents 🙂

i love the whole government cover up is the only thing keeping us from knowing aliens are real, theory!!! really? they should cover up the deficit instead of aliens. if a alien walked into my room i would update my facebook status asap. that means they would have to shut up every person in the world, not just americans.

the only reason im on here is because my roommates girlfriend thought the movie was real!!! i couldnt believe she was serious…classic bimbo.

Does it really matter if it’s real or not? It’s a movie. Even movies that say “based on a true story” are usually completely fabricated embellishments that greatly stray from any real truth about the original. It’s Hollywood; entertainment. They can claim it’s true even if it’s only loosely based on a claim someone named abigail tyler may have made once. I thought it was a very interesting movie! And shouldn’t that matter more?

Though…reading people’s debating is fun 🙂 and good point Hell2Go!

What I find most entertaining is everyone here wether it be to say its real or fake… or want to argue with others on their opinons, no one here but me is going to state the obvious…

Obviously everyone here at some point during , or moments after movie, typed into there computer “real or fake” wich means, they at a split second found that the possibility of it being real is a small chance. Those who normally wouldnt believe still had doubts, because the movie was so well done that it did what it was intended and thats to put doubt in the non-believers. So those non believers found themselves questioning it, and to get rid of those doubts and believe that its not real came to a site like this one. And reading these comments only made it seem ludicrious. So ask yourself, believers or non believers, something caused you after watching the movie or seeing a preview , CAUSED YOU TO COME TO A SITE LIKE THIS… WHY?

Now for my opinon… wich is my opinon, ONLY.. not intended to convince anyone or to draw negative comments, wich we all know it will anyways. Humans cannot resist puting there opinons on something in order to convice others they are right or what they belive to be logical…

So my opinon is this… I dont believe or non believe… I choose think that knowing the truth with something like this is better UNKNOWN its a mystery in life… same as religion… or the after life and god…. some want facts, or proof… just because someone says this is a bible, these are the words and happenings of god, BELIEVE… dont mean I do or i dont, I wait until the end to find out. If we are meant to know. Then it will be told, in the end.

Perhaps had our parents and ancester didnt do the whole santa clause thing.. real or fake.. point is this… A child believes in santa clause… then when your older and you have children of your own… you realize that dream as a child you had was just an illusion to keep a childs fantasies and spirit alive. Then as a adult if not reveiled to you as a hoax by your own parents, but instead you realize on your own… that knowing kills the unkown and the dreams, fantasies, or the thrill of real or not. KNOWING DESTROYS THE MYSTERY OF LIFE>>> I choose to just not know.

Real or fake… WHO CARES, one day I say yes because its exciting, NEXT DAY i say no… edge of your seat.. is so much better than knowing the facts. I will wait till the end. And if there is no answers at the end that .. well OOPS. To bad.

@Hell2Go
“abductions are real”
clever ;D

Annunaki is satan.

Hey, I was watched this, and I have to say, I am not convinced. The more I thought about it the more i realised that there were too many small things that gave me the impression of the videos being fake. For instance, when the guy killed his family, they couldn’t have shown the killings because they try to portray that it’s real murder happening, however I thought it was strange you didn’t see his children at all, I think this is because you wouldn’t be able to show a cold blooded killing of kids so obviously even if it was fake. Hmmm i think i worded that wrongly but maybe you will get it. Also the officer with his video footage, i thought it was strange how he stood in the way of the camera and blocked the abduction, could be a coincidence, but clearly when the police were questioning the people, the video, as we were able to see, if real, shows something out of the ordinary happening. That is even though we can’t see the abduction itself. I have a few others, but I will try to remember them if people want to talk about this.

BOLD EVIDENCE AND NOT OPINION!
BOLD EVIDENCE AND NOT OPINION!
BOLD EVIDENCE AND NOT OPINION!

BOLD EVIDENCE AND NOT OPINION!
BOLD EVIDENCE AND NOT OPINION!
BOLD EVIDENCE AND NOT OPINION!

Hello there!

Well, I saw the movie only couple of days ago and found out something really interesting then and there itself. It comes as a habit for me to scrutinize evrything I normally see 🙂

After all these discussions, I believe it is time someone gave some real credits to their argument!

THE MOVIE IS A BIG FAKE (DOCUMENTED VIDEOS ARE FAKE TO THE CORE)

Evidence:

The following pic is a snapshot from the so-called actual documentary footage of the real Dr Abigail Tyler bieng hypnotised.

FIRST SNAPSHOT:

October 1, 2009
9:39:50 AM

http://www.inselpix.com/images/silversaga/firstpic.png

(For a 1:38:00 minutes video of The Fourth Kind, this snapshot is at about 6:10 minutes)

Dr Tyler is calm and is about to be hypnotised and get into the violent stage where she starts screaming after some time. At this time of the shot, 9:39:49; she is calm and no violent behaviour or screaming started.

SECOND SNAPSHOT:

October 1, 2009
9:39:47 AM

http://www.inselpix.com/images/silversaga/secondpic.png

(For a 1:38:00 minutes video of The Fourth Kind, this snapshot is at about 6:22 minutes)

Here, Dr Tyler screams her throat out. 10 seconds later in the original movie, the footage shown is something that recorded 3 seconds earlier.

Or is it so that Dr got all the way calm exclusively for the 50th second of 9:39 HRS of Oct 1st, 2000 ???

The most funniest part is that the 50th second is again repeated in the footage shown seconds later which contains an entire different expression of Dr Tyler.

Give me a BREAK!!!!

When faking the ‘real’ footage, the director forgot to check into the timeling of the recording camcoder even. So badly faken!

Thanks and Chill!
Abid

mail me at silversaga@gmail.com

dubmass dubmass dubmass dumbass dubmass!

its not real i was one of the camera men -.-

me and Steven Tyler filmed “actual footage” Tommy homicide suicide. research this I’m not lying, and all you believers out there =-=-=-SHUT-THE-FUCK-UP=-=-=- and go to hell you dumb piece of shit losers that need to get their head out their ass and stop watching marketed movies depicting “actual footage”, cause its not you ignorant fucks.

This movie is FAKE. End of story. The “actual” Abbey Tyler is actress Charlotte Milchard. BOOM!

I didn’t read through all the comments on this page because I simply do not have time… but I urge everyone to get the bluray or DVD and watch the “deleted scenes.” All the archived footage was staged. The first deleted scene is them filming the scene where (SPOILER ALERT)

the man shoots up his family. Also, Dr Abigal has her own IMDB page… The “real” Dr Abigal, and she looks nothing like portrayed in the movie. Yes it seems very real, but the DVD release easily disproves the validity.

GOTOHELLCUNTS—It is so easy for someone sitting behind their computer screen to say, “I worked on the movie and know it is fake.” Show me the proof sir!!! I can sit here and say, “Oh by the was I am Brittney Spears and I am not a slut!” Anybody can be anybody they want when they are sitting in mommies basement with nothing to do but get online and call people dumbasses. I honestly believe you had nothing to do with making a movie because by your words you are definitely not a professional person. This website is for people to discuss their beliefs and people like you are pissing me off because now days people cant voice their opinions without cold hearted fuck heads butting in. If it makes you mad to see how many people believe then do not come to a website called fake or not fake. People like you are why this world has turned to shit!!! Where is the love???

“Where is the love???”

Have you even read your whole comment? Jesus Christ you hypocrite. And by the way, you said yourself that this site is for debating whether it’s real or not so….?

Hi. This is an alien. I am currently speaking sumerian, and one of your fellow countrymen I abducted is translating and typing in english. First of all, the movie is fake. I did enjoy it…there were many parts of the movie which were similar to how we treat humans. However, the footage is fake..my voice isn’t even that deep! Even my partner, fgroliksh, has the deepest voice of any of our races, and doesn’t sound like that. Second, half the people we abduct in Alaska are part of the witness protection program, so screw ’em! Last, when we take people from there homes…or trailers…we don’t use the door! Why doesn’t hollywood portray the successful things we do..like time travel..or our awesome ship designs…or how about how we take human and cattle parts, and make our own beings with them?? Can we please have some respect?….Oh yeah, by the way, 2012…..totally true.

In my personal opinion, I think that aliens exist and that they have visited our planet, possibly millions of times over the billions of years our planet has supported life, from the first bacteria to the dinasaurs, to animals to the human race. There has been undeniable evidence to suggest this over the years, even though Governments from around the world have kept the truth from becoming public knowledge for many different reasons: To avoid widespread public panic and to keep secret the knowledge of alien technology uncovered by governments in order to study and build upon, i.e. The Stealth Bomber and it’s ‘invisible to radar’ system, the microchip and countless electronic devices/items we have today.
But at the moment, I do not have an opinion on the movie. Nobody knows for sure whether the ‘real’ videos are fake or not. And without any hard evidence, I refuse to come to any conclusion and neither should anybody. Everyone has, and is, entitled to their own opinions non-the-less. The movie was obviously made to give viewers a chance to form their own opinion on the subject and the Director almost certainly expected sceptics.
And as for certain individuals commenting on the camera distortions, this supposedly happens due to radiation and energy impulses coming from alien technology which disrupts our (human) electrical appliances, perhaps purposefully to keep themselves as anonymous as possible from any audio/visual aids we may possess to record evidence of their real existence. Obviously, alien visitors wouldn’t want to impose on us and make themselves known to us for obvious reasons.
Apparently, UFO’s have been recorded in history for centuries and if I were to guess, I’d say that they’ve been watching us ever since they first came here and they’re learning about how we live our daily lives, although we’re unaware of it. Just like we watch documentaries on animals and insects, wildlife are unaware that we’re recording them. People need to bear in mind that advanced alien life forms capable of reaching our planet, obviously thousands if not millions of years ahead of us, is like comparing us to animals or insects. We can not comprehend alien technology and we are not ready to understand or even acknowledge there existence just yet. It’s like trying to ask an animal to do a task a human would find simple, like drive a car or use a mobile phone. It’d be impossible. Just like it’d be impossible for us to travel to distant suns on our man-made crafts that cannot come close to reaching speeds necessary to reach distant solar systems.
Personally, I have never witnessed a UFO sighting or have never been abducted by aliens. But I still believe that life exists and that we’ve already been visited because the evidence is overwhelming and the numbers are too great – approximately 9 planets per solar system orbiting one star, most containing upto or possibly more than 60 moons (distant moons may also be able to support life), hundreds of millions of stars per galaxy, hundreds of billions of galaxies across the universe, possible more than one universe (open to debate amongst scientists and professionals). The numbers are so great that alone, it is almost a fact that there is a planet out there, with every essential ingredient to support and build life, orbiting another star. It would take a fool to question that life exists elsewhere.
But then again, everything I have said is just my own opinion. And everybody is entitled to their own too. I read a few comments half way down whilst browsing and felt the urge to express my own opinion and feelings. I’ve also noticed alot of individuals getting angry and frustrated from what others have previously said or expressed. Debates on subjects should be done in a professional manner if the subject is taken seriously enough and these people obviously are not taking this as serious as others. Therefore, my comment is aimed at individuals who are open for honest, non-aggressive discussion.
I would like to hear other opinions on this particular subject.

The “REAL” footage is quite obviously edited/ altered. Most blatant place is the scene at about an hour in. when the guy breaks his back and levitates. Check out the time index in the corner. She hypnotizes him when the footage time index runs between 11:01:25 – 11:01:47. 22 seconds of “REAL” footage. Then it cuts to the re-enactment for few seconds. When it cuts back to to ‘REAL’ footage the time index reads 1:01:08 and runs until 11:01:45.So unless they travelled back in time by 39 seconds, its been edited. Is just really lazy film making. she quite obviously cant be putting him under hypnosis, and him being possessed by an alien entity at the same time!.
sorry for those believers, but the real footage just cant be real, if is was the time index wouldnt be wrong. however, did quite enjoy this movie. Parting thought.
………………If we really are the only living things in the the entire universe, seems like a terrible waste of space.

ROFLMAO at Dan…

That was great. It’s funny to read peoples comments who thought this was real. “WHY CANT YOU KEEP AN OPEN MIND! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO LET EVIDENCE, OR MONEY RUIN THE FACT THAT ANCIENT ALIEN BEINGS CAN POSSESS US LIKE SATAN!?!”

I wonder whats missing in their lives. Oo

Its fake. One of my best buds is from alaska and the whole forested scenes are nothing like what nome actually looks like. Good thriller though but yet still fake.

okay, mowjow, you are a fucking idiot !! the forested scenes weren’t filmed in Alaska !! have you seen New Moon?? Well it wasn’t fimed in Forks Washington, in was filmed in Canada!!!!

holy shit !!!! Mr. D you are right !!!!

Lindsey and Mr. D, no offense, but the recordings COULD have been fucked up by the “aliens” because they WANT us to think that they are fake. You never know with these kind of things.

@leftover crack
And what should we all just do?Believe to what a fucking movie says so?
Well in my view FAKE…(“in my view”)
I think that they want us to believe this shit,cause if don’t this movie would be a lame story…alien addoption blah blah blah…
Think straight…it’s just for money.

I watched this movie last night during a 24 hr CQ shift. (Prior military will know what that means) I definatley weirded me out, and made me remeber a week long event about 5 years ago where i woke up at 2:22 am every morning for no aparent reason. So then i was even more creeped out. So i decided to do some research on the movie to satisfy my curiosity. After spendin the last hour reading the comments I beleive the movie was fake, however, it is very self centered to think that with all the unexplored regions of the universe and just the immense amount planets and galaxies that we are the only intelligent life out here. Overall, it was still a good movie and at the very least it got alot of people thinking about things that they wouldnt have. And before some little internet twit tags me for spelling and grammar…if i cared that much about it i would have proof read and spell checked.

charlotte milchard thats who play dr abigail

lmaoo what a load of bollocks this film was aliens my fuckin arse

what dickheads who thought it was real

and I also wanted to point this out. You noticed in the movie the oral dictation where her door opens she starts screaming they start talking she screams some more you hear the door close

Now lets fast forward in the movie, to the police video. you all see the thing come out of the corner and then it goes blurry right. ok That oral dictation of her screaming was long. they must have pinned her down drug her off and everything, yet in that scene the ship comes the cop has enough time to say sir theres something hovering. its pulling them out of the house. o my god o my god. and then its gone?

First off he states there pulling them out of the house. which means multiples. if it took that long to get her in the dictation dont you think at least the boy would put up a fight too? and in the dictation they come in, and drag her off in person yet the cop claims there pulling them out of the house, which the only way he could see the aliens pulling them out is if there was some kind of tractor beam. unless he has x-ray vision and can see them in the house. Now where the fuck was this tractor beam during the dictation and why didnt they use it then? o right. because the whole movie is fake

You just have to really watch the movie and put stuff together and it starts to make sense after a while

I just watched the Movie, and I still don’t get it! Its kinda like the other night when I heard someone creeping in my frontyard. I thought it was a dog but it was an Alien AKA my Chinese neighbor who was looking for cans.

@ Dan. Is that really you? It’s Bill here your old Sumerian buddy! Good to hear from you. I bagged myself a human too and is currently typing and translating. I laughed so hard at your comment.

Look at this lot ranting about the film! If only they knew!
Say hello to the Mrs!

Phil Fava,
My problem is not with your assertion, but with your argument. It is lazy and illogical. You are a bad writer. There is nothing equivical in your article. The people who have responded to this article are more convincing than you are. For example, Dr M. has made a fairly convincing case as to why the footage may be staged. Take a lesson from him, or her. I, for one, will not deny the existence of alien life. Why would I? I have no way of determining whether or not life exists on other planets. Due to the vast expanse of our universe, you would be a fool to conclude, without any doubt, that there isn’t life out there. Further, you would be arrogant to assume that unexplainable things do not occur in life because that would infer that you believe you are the smartest animal in the universe…and judging by your retarded argument, I can safely say that you are not.
You can only conclude that footage is fake by examining the footage and demonstrating how it is staged. You can only conclude that the story is fake by debunking the story itself. This would mean you would have to address the so called “facts” in the story and prove them to be fiction. You havent done this at all.

Aliens Smellians, they’re among us! If you had that dream where you can’t move and something is holding you down with great force, then you finally wake up still feeling the pain from the unexplained incident….. well guess what you were probably butt probed. We need to just accept the facts.

Well I certainly had a great laugh at all the posts on this forum. Alot of people are asking for facts. Well I don’t know if there are aliens but the first part of this forum proves that there are ALOT of very angry teenagers out there…. Most entertaining.

Cheers

Hmm… just a thought here.. even IF (thats a big if) you beleive aliens are real.. where did they come from? i love paranormal things but i find it really funny how ppl will think its all kinds of things yet overlook the answer to them all. The Truth. Jesus said he is the way the Truth and the life. i can explain all and EVERY answer to life via the bible. and not just the classic “beleive in it only” but actual words from the bible that backup EVERY life and paranormal activity. Dont be so quick to brush this off. I mean why would you?

This is probably the most entertaining forum ever!!! Actually it was more entertaining then the movie itself!!! Everyone talking about absolutly everything. From the movie, to Jesus, the Bible, people fighting, man what a laugh through!!!

The point is that, this is excactly what the movie was aiming for. Jibber Jabber talk, and attention!!! Like all movies want to achieve. To be honest I don’t give shit about it being fake or real, a movie stay’s a movie, you watch it to be entertained, end of line.

Oh,and I m a Anya fan!!!! She or he made me laugh the most!!!! Keep it rocking!!!

I just watched The Forth Kind last night (05/10/2010). My feelings about the move are mixed. In 2002 I had my own personal experience that I can not explain or reconcile.

Following the experience, I developed sleep apnea, narcolepsy and cataplexy.
I lost my job of 26 years, where my performance up to the time of this experience, was consider exemplary.

There were certain scenes in the move that were exactly the same as they were in my experience. Prior to Sept. 2002, I began waking at 3:33 AM, every morning over several consecutive months. There were also other things the move got right, but I’m still too scared to comment on. I don’t know if any of these people are real or not, but they sure as hell got the research on the experience down pretty good.

I’m not sure why I feel compelled to comment on this move. I know for myself, just as surly as others believe in God and baby Jesus, they have been here for centuries.

Phenomenal. Reading these responses made my night. I couldn’t get through them all, but honestly, completely terrific.

I have yet to see the movie, I have recently gained this new fascination with the blog responses on it and fear actually seeing the movie will ruin them for me. I don’t have difficulty imagining the possibility of aliens, nor the possibility of the government covering things up. However, there doesn’t seem to be any logical reasoning for why the government would ever cover up alien abductions, so I have difficulty believing that there are any. It is of course always a potentiality.

For sure, though, the footage they show in the movie is a hundred percent fake. If footage like this had actually existed and been recorded it would have been released ages ago. And if not, it would have been prevented by doctor/patient confidentiality, which would mean it was definitely not able to be put into a movie. Either way, not real. Doesn’t matter whether the events the movies based off of are, because that’s impossible to know.

@ Strat – The sleeping thing you spoke about experiencing happens to my boyfriend all of the time and I always can tell when it’s happening (thus having to shake him awake). I researched it after the first few times, and it’s just a muscle spasm that occurs in most people though some more frequently than others when you make a quick transition between sub-conscious and conscious thought (dream state/awake state). Your body is just experiencing a quick shock. There’s a lot of brain mumbo-jumbo that goes along with it. I’m not trying to discredit anyone or anything, but it is rather common. So I would not be concerned about that being any symptom. Most of my friends say it’s happened to them as well.

Ali, have you ever heard of a Lucid Dream? A lot of people don’t think its real, but its 100% real. This is how cool it is; before you go to sleep you meditate and tell your subconscious mind what you want to dream about, then you go to sleep and actually dream it! Its easy but you half to achieve the art of Hypnosis. I use to do things like bite my lip when I use to sleep; I would wake up and see bite marks all over my lips and it hurt, but I do not have that problem any more. Your boyfriend, their something in his brain that triggers him to have those muscle spasms. He could have epilepsy, or its just very deep rem sleep. I don’t know, but if he does not get it checked out then one day its going to lead to a heart attack.

i was abducted by aliens (no joke) anyway i came here to say that the movie was good
Justin bieber is so hot i love him so much hes so talented i love his song eenie meenie and baby
baby baby abby oh and shawty is a eenie meenie miny mo lova mmm so smexii

😀 i love you justin will you go out with me?

They came and took her out of bed and dragged her out the door, then they pulled her daughter through the roof. When the ship flew over the house and the policeman was recording, the camera would have distorted as it approached their property.. not as is goes into the cameras view.

Sarah ^ grow up

Wow! Just saw the movie(May15 2010) At first I thought the actual footage seemed real, but as the movie progressed it looked more and more fake. The levitation scene just really made me think that there is no way! I love how the footage gets blurred at just the right times. However, I am a huge fan of the series “Ghost Hunters” on SyFy and I have seen doors shut by themselves and flashlights getting turned on all by themselves and even dark masses in the shape of people on that show. That show claims that it is all REAL and if they are f-ing with me on that one, I am going to be pissed! The movie makes me mad because they never give you a clear cut real or ficticous sense of the story. From what I have personally researched, it does appear to be 100 percent FAKE! I am a little upset because I do believe alien abduction could be possible. Notice I only said Could Be. I do know about lucid dreaming and that could be one explanation and there are other psychological things happening to some people that could expain why they thought they were experiencing an abduction.. What is amazing, is the staggering amount of people who will look you dead in the face and swear they really have seen or been in UFOs. My own mother says she was positive she saw an aircraft she cannot explain. In the 70’s she saw it hovering only 100 feet in the air from her and she can tell you details and trust me it was not a stupid weather balloon! (my mom was not a believer at all until this happened to her. she did not believe in aliens or anything supernatural either for that matter.)

Hey Stephen! This is Nonya…first off by my statement please show me how I am a hypocrite. The site is for people to voice opinions freely…not get judged for them. When people start being mean ass people calling others names then that is why I said where is the love! By you saying Jesus Christ is where the love is well if you are a true believer in him then he should be inside you and you should show his love through your spirit!!!! Maybe you should read back what you wrote and think before you speak next time about the Lord!

BACK TO THE FUTURE ISNT REAL?????!!!!!!!!! I HAVE NOW BEEN LEFT TO QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF MOVIES SUCH AS AVATAR AND GHOSTBUSTERS WHO’S HISTORICAL PRESENCE HAS LEFT A RELEVENT SIGNIFICANCE UPON HUMAN INTELLIGENCE

After watching the movie, I still have a thought that some kind of extra terrestrial life is out there. Before I watched this movie, I remember reading up on Stephen Hawking (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100425/sc_afp/scienceastronomyextraterrestrialhawking) and what stood out to me was towards the end of “The Forth Kind” the psychologist that went through all the experiences was “paralyzed?” in a wheel chair just like Stephen Hawking. Now I’m not making any conclusions, but don’t you think that’s sort of strange?

This movie really scared me, not because I’m afraid of being abducted, but because I didn’t (and still don’t) know what to make of the information provided in it.

And if anyone who wrote on this page needs a more rational and scholarly argument regarding aliens, then just watch ancient aliens on the history channel. Many of the claims made by people about aliens are somewhat ridiculous, however it is interesting and you would be an ignorant fool to not even hear what other people have to say.

That being said the most interesting part of the movie for me was the last scene in the movie where the recording of a Sumerian voice is played back and the aliens not only call themselves “God” but say things in accordance to the bible. Such as, “I am” (which translates to Yahweh in hebrew), and “savior”. They also say, “enforce my will” and that they abducted Abigail Tyler’s daughter, and excuse me if I’m incorrect, “for the father.” I’m religious and this creeps me out because of all the ways religious events and holy writings are starting to be interpreted as having to do with aliens coming to earth.

This movie is obviously fake! However, if you don’t believe in the possibility that aliens exist then your quite ignorant. This universe is massive, and believe “GOD” didn’t create it. The big bang theory is also a crock. I feel the truth lies somewhere in the middle and has a lot to do with what we as stupid human beings cant grasp. I find it quite possible aliens may have visited 6,000 years ago. Hey, its possible. Where you alive? NO! I think if you all want to be afraid of something real you should stop paying attention to stupid Hollywood films and actually wake up and pay attention to what your world is doing to you right now. Believe me its scary. Its really sad and it scares me how dumb and ignorant of a species we really are. We destroy everything, consume, consume, consume, and waste. U want facts! 6,000 children under the age of 5 die everyday in the world from starvation. UN report 2009. That’s ignorance! Were starting wars all over the world, and for what? not democracy! War is the most profitable thing we can do for the elite of this world. How do you think these “terrorist” get their weapons? Who do u think supplies the oil for tanks and vehicles on both sides. We funded the nazi is their quest! FACT! I mean really, stop worrying about aliens that may or may not exist and starting learning some esoteric knowledge and learn how to survive before they kill you with their vaccinations and diseases. By the way cancer is easily avoided and cured! stop trusting the FDA and stuffing ur gullets with pharmaceutical/synthetic drugs. Dangerous dangerous shit! WAKE UP!

According to promotional materials from Universal, the film is framed around a psychologist named Abigail Tyler who interviewed traumatized patients in Nome. However Alaska state licensing examiner Jan Mays says she can’t find records of an Abigail Tyler ever being licensed in any profession in Alaska. Ron Adler, CEO and director of the Alaska Psychiatric Institute and Denise Dillard, president of the Alaska Psychological Association say they’ve never heard of Abigail Tyler. Web sites for an “Alaska Psychiatry Journal” and “Alaska News Archive” containing references to Tyler were created by the film’s producers, but were outed as hoaxes when it was discovered they were registered a month before the film’s release and the purported author of one of the archived news articles stated she had never written it.

your not aloud to cast actors in a film and not have their names hidden, or un-exposed … (especially in the credits).. doesnt matter how realistic their trying to make the movie, the credits are the credits… and every actor has to be mentioned!..

The real “Abigail Tyler” who is in this film… aparently doesnt seem real to some of you people…
in the credits, if there is an actor who plays
Abigail Tyler… they would have to be acknowledged.. !!! or revealed to the audience, you cant have someone acting in a filmm.. (especially a large character) and not reveal their real name.. its an offence.. rather then focusing on the footage and if it is real or not, look into the actual facts and history…

ITS ACTUALLY A HUGE DISSAPOINTMENT TO ME. to give this proof of this movie being fake!!!!

link to the page/proof of the actor who plays the real Abigail:

http://www.genreaddict.com/news/the-real-dr-abigail-tyler-in-the-fourth-kind-was-played-by-charlotte-milchard

dammit

Just watched it. Through-out the movie I was not really convinced/impressed with the “real footage” for various reasons,- (the nature of the actual footage seemed chincy and the fuzzyness seemed computer generated)- so I did a lil follow up research and quickly realized the “authenticity” of the movie cannot be taken seriously. There are no trees in Nome. Flat. The scene of the “actual police footage” of the UFO flying over the house…trees can be seen around the house. uhhhh… what? so therefore if that actual footage isn’t actual footage than how can any other “actual footage” from the film be taken seriously? ya dig

What is it that makes everyone believe that the “actual footage” is not real? If none of the actors were credited, it seems more real then fake. At the end of the movie it stated how the one main cop wouldn’t participate and how the man who translated the language would not participate, it seems to be more real based on the facts. Just like the movie said, we are often afraid of the unknown. Just because we don’t know very much, doesn’t mean that it’s fake.

Okay. seriously guys. just take a chill pill for a second. Remember when ‘War of the Worlds’ was first released, ages ago as a radio-play, and everyone panicked and thought it was real? Well turns out it wasn’t and those people ended up feeling pretty damn silly. So just stop for a second and think about what you’re saying.
1) if there is a conspiracy the government would not allow this film to be released. simple fact.
2) why would the government hide aliens from us?
because they can’t do anything about it? didn’t stop them with anything else they can’t fix.
Because they are in league with them? Yep sure, that’s why we’ve got a cure for AIDs, all types of cancer and world hunger.
Because they’re being threatned? oh come on, seriously?
3) Steven hawking, arguably the most brilliant scientific mind of our century,DOES believe in the existence of life on other planets.
HOWEVER he does not believe (and remember he is the expert here, like an ACTUAL expert. and world reknowned for being in the know about these things.) that aliens have visited us. It’s highly improbable they would want to visit us anyway (think of earth as a very very small town of little significance to the universe) and the science and mechanics involved are hugely hugely complicated.
It would take hundreds of years to get here from the NEAREST star by the fastest speed short of light speed. so they would have to freeze themselves in a sleep-state or something similar. seems an awful lot of bother for a group of apes that in terms of how technologically advanced they are, have barely started making fire.

So while it is very possible and widely acknowlegded that there probably IS life on other planets, it coming to visit us seems pretty unlikely.
And stop being so paraniod people, the government keeps secrets sure, but none on a scale as big as life on other planets. oh and as for the other governments of the world releasing classified documents.. have you read those? the supposed U.F.O.s were other countries planes half the time. remember U.F.O. stands for Unidentified.Flying.Object. not alien space craft.

Have we got enough to worry about at home without inventing new problems to deal with?
Geeze.
Peace out people.

Ps. anyone who believes they have been abducted should really really think it through there are so many other things it probably was – the subconscious providing the first image it comes up with when half asleep and roused suddenly (in pop culture of the modern era it’s little green men, in victorian times it was ghosts, before in the middle ages people saw angels.. not saying that any of these don’t exist but just think about it) or it could be a type of sleep paralysis that can be very disturbing, or even hallucinations that happen due to a whole number of reasons. Talk with someone, maybe a sleep specialist and find some real answers.